Player Discussion: Jet Greaves

[SteelCityCannon]

So true for so many thing in life.

But this will come to finding out what his ceiling is. As the league adapts to him, can he adapt to the league at the similar rate because he'll need to keep evolving too.

I also feel like the team is subconsciously playing harder defense for him because of his relative inexperience. As they get more comfortable they may get looser. Everyone likes shiny new toys.

Jet seems so composed compared to the other two goalies. You don't see him lose his head or flop around like Elvis. The team has to feel that. They seem more comfortable in front of Jet.

I don't know if he's *the guy*, but Jet absolutely should be the starter over Elvis or Tarry next year.

 

[Long Live Lyle]

Tarasov will not be re-signed. Jet will be in Columbus full-time next year. I’m 90+% sure about both of those things.

I’m less certain who the other goalie besides Jet will be next year. I think it’s 50/50 between Elvis and UFA (or trade). I don’t think Elvis would be back if he was a pending free agent and/or if he was very easy to move, but they might keep him rather than buy him out with two years left if he’s willing to accept not being the guaranteed #1 / willing to accept a platoon or even being the 1b.

He has an ego obviously but I don’t see anywhere else in the NHL where he’d be a sure-fire starter (and I think he knows it) and he likes Columbus so maybe he’d accept that. Or maybe the FO / coaching staff / team is completely done with him, but even after the one “tantrum” Evason clearly showed he still favored him over Tarasov, so not sure exactly how the organization feels about him.

 

[Doggy]

Tarasov will not be re-signed. Jet will be in Columbus full-time next year. I’m 90+% sure about both of those things.

I’m less certain who the other goalie besides Jet will be next year. I think it’s 50/50 between Elvis and UFA (or trade). I don’t think Elvis would be back if he was a pending free agent and/or if he was very easy to move, but they might keep him rather than buy him out with two years left if he’s willing to accept not being the guaranteed #1 / willing to accept a platoon or even being the 1b.

He has an ego obviously but I don’t see anywhere else in the NHL where he’d be a sure-fire starter (and I think he knows it) and he likes Columbus so maybe he’d accept that. Or maybe the FO / coaching staff / team is completely done with him, but even after the one “tantrum” Evason clearly showed he still favored him over Tarasov, so not sure exactly how the organization feels about him.

Being preferred over the other guy isn't necessarily a ringing endorsement. The UFA market is not great, a recent Athletic article has Jake Allen as the best 2025 UFA goalie but just the 15th best UFA overall.

I would not be surprised to see GMDW go after a goalie in a trade. I don't know who that goalie is but I believe there are some well thought of guys right on the cusp of NHL impact who are in a logjam situation.

• With Gustavsson having a really good season is Wallstedt who struggled a bit on a horrendous Ahl club become available? He should be NHL ready at this point.
• Would Habs move Dobes with Fowler in the near pipeline?
• Vancouver has Demko, Lankinen and Silovs. Is Demko available (inexpensively) or Silovs who might finally be ready?

Etc. I am not an expert on this but I think there have to be some options out there.

 

[DankoCBJ]

First star of the week!

 

[hockey17jp]

I think keeping this guy buried in Cleveland while our other goalies are letting up 4-5+ a game and scratching JVR for all of February and March are the two moves our team would like back after it's all said and done this year.

 

[majormajor]

Being preferred over the other guy isn't necessarily a ringing endorsement. The UFA market is not great, a recent Athletic article has Jake Allen as the best 2025 UFA goalie but just the 15th best UFA overall.

I would not be surprised to see GMDW go after a goalie in a trade. I don't know who that goalie is but I believe there are some well thought of guys right on the cusp of NHL impact who are in a logjam situation.

• With Gustavsson having a really good season is Wallstedt who struggled a bit on a horrendous Ahl club become available? He should be NHL ready at this point.
• Would Habs move Dobes with Fowler in the near pipeline?
• Vancouver has Demko, Lankinen and Silovs. Is Demko available (inexpensively) or Silovs who might finally be ready?

Etc. I am not an expert on this but I think there have to be some options out there.

I'm leaning towards a veteran complement to Greaves, preferably Jake Allen.

Regarding the players you mention - the Wild and Habs have no reason to move their young goalies. I'm not sure what the Canucks will do with theirs, I think they'll try and move Demko. But for us I'd rather get a goalie who isn't injured as often. It's an issue when we have to keep calling up our #3. Alternatively we could take on Demko (or Freddy Andersen, another usually injured goalie) if we also acquire a waiver exempt backup, like in a three goalie rotation. None of our homegrown prospects are ready for that. Tarasov is cheap enough and can get through waivers with good timing, but I think we would all prefer a clean slate there.

TLDR: Greaves + veteran who is usually healthy OR Greaves + Demko/Andersen oft-injured type + trade for waiver-exempt #3G.

I think keeping this guy buried in Cleveland while our other goalies are letting up 4-5+ a game and scratching JVR for all of February and March are the two moves our team would like back after it's all said and done this year.

That losing streak while JVR was scratched felt like an eternity, but for the record he was only scratched in the games between 3/24 and 4/5. He played in the games those nights.

 

[CBJ goalie]

 

[cbjthrowaway]

TLDR: Greaves + veteran who is usually healthy OR Greaves + Demko/Andersen oft-injured type + trade for waiver-exempt #3G.

doesn't even need to be a waiver-exempt 3G, they can just carry three guys.

greaves will be here either way. if they get demko to be the starter, there's enormous injury risk. if they get someone like samsonov or forsberg for a timeshare, there's risk that those guys just stink.

carrying three NHL-level goalies insulates them in both directions. it gives them "oh no both of our goalies suck" insurance by having a legitimately good NHL goalie, and "oh no, our #1 is hurt again" insurance by giving them a third competent player.

it's not ideal roster math, but with how much dean likes to go 11/7 at times, a #3 goalie would provide more value than a #14 forward.

 

[stevo61]

Guys hate the the 3 goalie rotation which I don't blame them. That's a tough sell

 

[majormajor]

doesn't even need to be a waiver-exempt 3G, they can just carry three guys.

greaves will be here either way. if they get demko to be the starter, there's enormous injury risk. if they get someone like samsonov or forsberg for a timeshare, there's risk that those guys just stink.

carrying three NHL-level goalies insulates them in both directions. it gives them "oh no both of our goalies suck" insurance by having a legitimately good NHL goalie, and "oh no, our #1 is hurt again" insurance by giving them a third competent player.

it's not ideal roster math, but with how much dean likes to go 11/7 at times, a #3 goalie would provide more value than a #14 forward.

Yes I forgot that you can carry three - I think that's a good way to do it.

Guys hate the the 3 goalie rotation which I don't blame them. That's a tough sell

I'm trying to think how often I see a real rotation of 3 guys - it's usually the case that one of the 3 is in and out with injuries. You could do something like 40 gp for Greaves, and then the other 40 is split between Andersen and whoever fills in with Andersen injured. That third guy will of course have to understand his role, and appreciate the NHL pay over being assigned to the NHL.

 

[stevo61]

Yes I forgot that you can carry three - I think that's a good way to do it.



I'm trying to think how often I see a real rotation of 3 guys - it's usually the case that one of the 3 is in and out with injuries. You could do something like 40 gp for Greaves, and then the other 40 is split between Andersen and whoever fills in with Andersen injured. That third guy will of course have to understand his role, and appreciate the NHL pay over being assigned to the NHL.

Jake Allen ironically was in Montreal

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Jake Allen ironically was in Montreal

jake allen's GSAA stats are outstanding this year. he's always been a really good goalie.

the jackets have so much cap and both KJ + marchy have two more cheap years. feels like the obvious solution is to overpay for allen and let him and jet split time, but waddell has a lot of familiarity with andersen, so that one feels more likely (and volatile)

 

[stevo61]

jake allen's GSAA stats are outstanding this year. he's always been a really good goalie.

the jackets have so much cap and both KJ + marchy have two more cheap years. feels like the obvious solution is to overpay for allen and let him and jet split time, but waddell has a lot of familiarity with andersen, so that one feels more likely (and volatile)

Allen commented on disliking the 3 goalie system when he was in Montreal so if he's a target Allen/Greaves would be the duo

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Allen commented on disliking the 3 goalie system when he was in Montreal so if he's a target Allen/Greaves would be the duo

yeah if allen is the guy they wouldn't need to carry three.

if they end up getting demko or andersen? that's when signing a guy like georgiev or husso to be the #3 makes sense.

 

[majormajor]

yeah if allen is the guy they wouldn't need to carry three.

if they end up getting demko or andersen? that's when signing a guy like georgiev or husso to be the #3 makes sense.

Except I think Georgiev and Husso might just be guys you waive and call up when you need them. They've been that bad.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Except I think Georgiev and Husso might just be guys you waive and call up when you need them. They've been that bad.

they sure have. still, if there's a guy like that who the jackets think they can fix, that'd be a prime "carry a third goalie" candidate. goalies are volatile, maybe one of those guys is actually good.

 

[majormajor]

they sure have. still, if there's a guy like that who the jackets think they can fix, that'd be a prime "carry a third goalie" candidate. goalies are volatile, maybe one of those guys is actually good.

Yes, but let's not do Georgiev. Carrying three goalies is cool with me but they've got to be mentally stable types.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Yes, but let's not do Georgiev. Carrying three goalies is cool with me but they've got to be mentally stable types.

lol i was just looking at a list of free agent goalies and asking "who here sucks but has a good chance of being on an NHL roster next year" and landed on those guys.

good thing i skipped past lehner

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[CBJx614]

 

[Doggy]

Anyone seem the schmuck in the mains talking about how Jet hasn't had to make any hard saves over his win streak this past week. The thought that went through my head was: "tell me you haven't watched the games without telling me you haven't watched the games". But he claims he has seen most of all the games, so all I can assume is that he is either biased, blind or an idiot (or a combination of the three).

Jet has had some puck luck (all goalies do...and need it to be good) and not all the shots he has faced have been high danger scoring shots, but he has had to make quite a few outstanding saves in every game. Maybe it's just that Jet has made the non-routine save look routine with his solid positioning, excellent lateral movement and lightning quick glove.

I know no goalie can maintain this level of play indefinitely but to diminish he has done over the past week is unfair to him. I guess just a biased dickwad on the mains. Shouldn't let him ruffle my feathers.

 

[JacketFanInFL]

The thing about Jet is that it shows you how bad Tarasov and Elvis have been. It's no longer a defensive problem. Jet is the number 1 guy moving forward. I've seen enough. He makes saves that the other two do not. The team plays better for him.

Going into next year, both of them have to go. Buyout Elvis and bring in any of the names mentioned for the tandem.

 

[stevo61]

Anyone seem the schmuck in the mains talking about how Jet hasn't had to make any hard saves over his win streak this past week. The thought that went through my head was: "tell me you haven't watched the games without telling me you haven't watched the games". But he claims he has seen most of all the games, so all I can assume is that he is either biased, blind or an idiot (or a combination of the three).

Jet has had some puck luck (all goalies do...and need it to be good) and not all the shots he has faced have been high danger scoring shots, but he has had to make quite a few outstanding saves in every game. Maybe it's just that Jet has made the non-routine save look routine with his solid positioning, excellent lateral movement and lightning quick glove.

I know no goalie can maintain this level of play indefinitely but to diminish he has done over the past week is unfair to him. I guess just a biased dickwad on the mains. Shouldn't let him ruffle my feathers.

He talks with emotion and leaves logic at the door. Most Hab fans have been pretty respectful during this last push but a few act like their opponents are playing the games of their lives and ours are doing whatever they can to help us win

 

[Nanabijou]

Tarasov is out for sure next year and Greaves will be one of the two. I think it’s higher than 50% chance they run with Elvis and Jet next year and sign a veteran for Cleveland who can spot up here when needed. Have Elvis and Jet compete for the #1 spot, something Elvis didn’t really have to worry about this year.

I don’t disagree that a fresh start wouldn’t be bad for everyone, but I doubt there are takers on Elvis and I could see management wanting to hold off on buying him out this year.

 

[majormajor]

Jet has made the non-routine save look routine with his solid positioning, excellent lateral movement and lightning quick glove.

That's how I see it. Jet always seems to track it and stay square even when it's a mess in front of him.