Value of: Jesper Fast
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hockeykicker
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hard to say. did he have a random good year or is he now becoming a good player? he has 44 points in 148 games
Irishguy42
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I think he's gotten used to the NHL by now and it wasn't really a random year for him. He was already good over in the SHL, and now he's getting into his own here.
He's definitely carving a niche as a defensive player though. Not a total offensive force, but still somewhat of a threat.
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NYRFAN218
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He's a nice little player but he's ultimately nothing more than a good 3rd liner. He played a lot in the top 6 which is why his point totals last year are a little high. He's defensively responsible, extremely smart player, and knows where to be on the ice. He doesn't produce or generate a lot of offense though and that's a big reason why he's pretty limited to a bottom 6 role. I think on a legit Cup contender, he's best slotted on 4th line RW but it's not the end of the world if he's on the 3rd line.
Vatican Roulette
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Who would you rather have Vesey or Fast? That is the point I am making. The trade is only if NYR gets Vesey. Lindberg is a center. Jooris, Grabner, or Gerbe traded right away would make Gorton look bad and not trustable. Its either Fast or Nash, but Nash's value is crap right now and Fast's is pretty good.
NYRFAN218
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Guys like Jooris or Gerbe getting waived and sent down really doesn't mean much considering they're on 1 year deals making $600K. I think those guys know going in they'll be battling for spots.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Fast is probably more important to the Rangers than he is to other teams in a trade.
A lot of us always question why Fast is on the team when AV puts him in the top 9, but when he's on the 4th line, he does a pretty good job. He's not a good PK'er though, and AV should stop using him on the PK.
A lot of us always question why Fast is on the team when AV puts him in the top 9, but when he's on the 4th line, he does a pretty good job. He's not a good PK'er though, and AV should stop using him on the PK.
that's a yeah, not a not
Klein = mid 1st, esp since he is RD on sweet contract
missing link Oil want
Lindberg + Fast contribute NOW as 3rd liners with some upside
gives Oil depth
Yakimov is interesting but totally green, and in KHL right now anyway
Yakupov is pre-bust, a throw in, a project for cap balance more than anything else, the fact you couldn't get a 3rd for him at the draft is proof and if not expiring NY does not want
Yeah, you'll cough up your first for 3 solid immediate adds
Savant
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It's not a matter of Vesey or Fast. it's probably not even a matter of Nash or Fast. It's get Vesey signed and worry about the rest later. Let's see if he even signs in NY first.
Charlie Conway
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Fast is the type of player I'd hate to lose. People will talk a lot about developing effective role players, and Fast is that kind of guy. I'd much more readily waive Jooris or Gerbe even though I like Jooris.
Fast is a defensively-reliable winger. He's not going to wow you, but that's his game--quiet and effective. He's played everywhere in the lineup with the only dings being that he's not quite enough of an offensive factor to really be in the top-6 regularly, and he's still developing his PK. Still, he can play anywhere in a pinch, and those sort of homegrown utility guys are ones we've overpaid for at times.
Being defensively responsible while still getting in ~30 points is a very effect bottom six player--even more impressive considering he played with Glass for quite some time and was not kept in a single spot for any extended period of time. He was jostled around the lineup extensively.
I think it's possible that Fast takes another step ala Pageau, but I think, at worst, he's a reliable defensive player with a little offensive get-up.
Fast is a defensively-reliable winger. He's not going to wow you, but that's his game--quiet and effective. He's played everywhere in the lineup with the only dings being that he's not quite enough of an offensive factor to really be in the top-6 regularly, and he's still developing his PK. Still, he can play anywhere in a pinch, and those sort of homegrown utility guys are ones we've overpaid for at times.
Being defensively responsible while still getting in ~30 points is a very effect bottom six player--even more impressive considering he played with Glass for quite some time and was not kept in a single spot for any extended period of time. He was jostled around the lineup extensively.
I think it's possible that Fast takes another step ala Pageau, but I think, at worst, he's a reliable defensive player with a little offensive get-up.
BBKers
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If Fast AND Grabner both start on the 4th line and Glass and Lapierre are not on the team Rangers look really good up front. Fat chance though...
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Fast is a bottom 6 kind of guy, likely 4th liner who is a nice cheap player but by himself has little value. He is the kind of add on to a larger trade such as moving Nash that might help it come to fruition down the road.
I'd like to see the Rangers sign Vesey to make other moves posible. I think Gorton is waiting on that outcome, hell the whole NHL might be. Not that Vesey could come in a replace Nash right away but I think I'd plug him in for top 6 minutes no matter what. It should make the Rangers move Nash sooner rather than later.
I'd like to see the Rangers sign Vesey to make other moves posible. I think Gorton is waiting on that outcome, hell the whole NHL might be. Not that Vesey could come in a replace Nash right away but I think I'd plug him in for top 6 minutes no matter what. It should make the Rangers move Nash sooner rather than later.
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AGREED!
Besides, Fast is fast and can play either wing. Keeping speedy is a no brainer.
emodwarf
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Why would the Rangers trade Fast, even if they magically get Vesey? The Rangers have historically done a terrible job drafting reliable, affordable 4th liners. They finally have two in Fast and Lindberg, and now we should trade Fast who is very smart defensively and does all the little things?
Fast isn't going to light the world on fire, but he's a steadying presence on a team that lacks heart. If anything, signing Vesey helps slot Fast where he's best suited - an energetic and defensively responsible 4th line. He doesn't look that out of place playing above the 4th line either. He won't drive the offense, but he can slot up in a pinch when needed.
If the Rangers sign Vesey, I think that just pushes Gerbe or Jooris to the press box or AHL (especially once Lindberg is back from his surgery). Gerbe and Jooris can be buried without a cap hit, and it's not a big deal if someone grabs them off waivers instead.
Fast isn't going to light the world on fire, but he's a steadying presence on a team that lacks heart. If anything, signing Vesey helps slot Fast where he's best suited - an energetic and defensively responsible 4th line. He doesn't look that out of place playing above the 4th line either. He won't drive the offense, but he can slot up in a pinch when needed.
If the Rangers sign Vesey, I think that just pushes Gerbe or Jooris to the press box or AHL (especially once Lindberg is back from his surgery). Gerbe and Jooris can be buried without a cap hit, and it's not a big deal if someone grabs them off waivers instead.
BBKers
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True
But losing Hrivik or Jensen on waivers will sting a little bit more IMO
There may be some deals going down though
Time will tell
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