Jerome Iginla

[oil slick]

Was Iginla good? no, not really.

But no worse than Sakic, Pronger, Richards, Lecavalier... and certainly a damn sight better than Thornton and Heatley.

 

[Ronald Pagan]

Iginla was one of our best forwards this game and Regehr was one of our best defencemen. To people who bash Regehr, do you know what his game is about? He finished a plus for the tournament and was a force all game in his own zone, that was what he was brought in to do.

 

[The_Eck]

The last major competition Canada participated in was the 2006 Olympics, and he led Canada to it's worst result ever.

What did Quinn do to lead this country in 2002? It was Gretzky's rant that turned that team around, not anything Quinn did.

The 2004 World Cup was a success, but that's one in how many years of coaching?

Wow! Gretzky's rant?? ARe you one of those that believe Gretz is the resurrection of Jesus Christ??

If you're giving that much credit to Wayne, then he should get most of the blame this time around.

 

[Gallagbi]

Iginla was one of our best forwards this game and Regehr was one of our best defencemen. To people who bash Regehr, do you know what his game is about? He finished a plus for the tournament and was a force all game in his own zone, that was what he was brought in to do.

He did have a good game, but a bad tournament. I know exactly what his game is about, but I don't see a +3 against Italy and Germany as a great tournament. He was weak in all, but todays game and even then theres arguments against him. His foot speed was noticable and he was responsible for key goals in the tournament. He wasn't a defensive specialist as he couldn't clear the puck and didn't contain forwards, and he definately didn't create offense. He was one of many lackluster players in the tournament. I think alot of people, including myself were expecting more out of him and he didn't come through which is why he was a dissappointment. Nobody scored, and he wasn't expected to, but he wasn't the defensive force he was expected to be.

 

[guzzy]

I think he made the game deciding error against the russians when he could have set up Sacic on a 2 on 1 break but chose to take a joke of a wristshot instead.

Canada up by one would most likely have won them the Game. If i were Sakic, i'd yell at the guy all night.

actually if you knew anything about hockey you never pass on a 2 on 1 when the dman has your pas receiver covered. If the pass is intercepted there is a 5 on 2 or 4 on 2 the other way. But being the be all end all you are, you probably knew that..

 

[Resolute]

The last major competition Iginla was in was the 2006 olympics, and he was invisible.

What's Iginla's great success? The 2002 Olympics? Naw, that was all Gretzky.

The 2004 WC? yeah, fine, one success in how many years of playing?

See, it's a stupid argument both ways.

So your only defense of Quinn is to attack Iginla. Hmmmm...

Yeah, Iginla sucked in this tournament. Already said so. Just like everyone else. Including a coach who has repeatedly shown he cannot adapt to adverse conditions, and cannot recognize when he needs to change things up.

On the one hand, I am not surprised that a Torontonian is defending Quinn. On the other hand, I am. What exactly has Quinn ever accomplished with the Leafs?

I'm not going to sit here and defend Iginla's performance. Maybe you should take your homer goggles off and look at the significant role your guys played in making this the worst Canadian Olympic hockey team ever.

 

[guzzy]

Iginla wasn't very good at all. I think he had the opening to make the pass to Sakic. He wasn't as bad as Reghr, but that isn't saying much.

Regehr was Canada's best dman against Russia and was better than Pronger all tournament

 

[Gallagbi]

actually if you knew anything about hockey you never pass on a 2 on 1 when the dman has your pas receiver covered. If the pass is intercepted there is a 5 on 2 or 4 on 2 the other way. But being the be all end all you are, you probably knew that..

The only option he had was to shoot, or drop it to Blake, who was semi-open, but under pressure and we were killing a penalty. Hard to say it was a bad play for Iggy to shoot, I agree with you.

 

[oil slick]

Iginla was one of our best forwards this game and Regehr was one of our best defencemen. To people who bash Regehr, do you know what his game is about? He finished a plus for the tournament and was a force all game in his own zone, that was what he was brought in to do.

Regehr had a pretty mediocre tourney IMO. He got undressed a few times against the Czech's and Finns...

 

[Resolute]

Wow! Gretzky's rant?? ARe you one of those that believe Gretz is the resurrection of Jesus Christ??

If you're giving that much credit to Wayne, then he should get most of the blame this time around.

Nope, cant stand the whiner, but when this team needed to have it's *** kicked in 2002, it was Gretzky who did the kicking, not the coach.

And yes, Gretzky deserves a considerable amount of criticism for this team. Especially for the old boys club atmosphere that left quality, up and coming players off the roster for players who have been major disapointments this year (ie: Iginla), or who are living off of one great season from three years ago (Bertuzzi). Did Doan and McCabe make this team because they deserved to be there, or becuase their coaches were picking the team?

Gretzky most definitely has a lot to answer for, along with Quinn and the players.

 

[Gallagbi]

Regehr had a pretty mediocre tourney IMO. He got undressed a few times against the Czech's and Finns...

Ovechkin and a few other Russian's got'em turned around pretty good today as well.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Iginla was one of our best forwards this game and Regehr was one of our best defencemen. To people who bash Regehr, do you know what his game is about? He finished a plus for the tournament and was a force all game in his own zone, that was what he was brought in to do.

Umm...Regehr was not a 'force' in his own zone. He looked slow out there.

 

[Force]

He stopped and glided and looked for seconds... clueless.
If he drives to the net with all he has he can squeeze a pass through or make a serious effort to try to score. If he chooses to shoot, it has to be low, hard and in the middle. He took a high wrist shot that was easily deflected to the side.

If you had Forsberg/Sundin, Ovechchin/Malkin or Jagr/Straka, heck Selanee/Koivu performing that play you'd see them wanting to make it count.

The guy had a great opportunity and failed miserably.

 

[Phanuthier*]

If its a low hard shot, or if he tried to cut inside and took himself out of the play to risk a chance, the other team has a 5-on-3 or 5-on-2.

Iginla made the safe play there. Most guys would have just taken it around the net too, it was a pretty standard, safe play.

 

[arrbez]

So your only defense of Quinn is to attack Iginla. Hmmmm...

Yeah, Iginla sucked in this tournament. Already said so. Just like everyone else. Including a coach who has repeatedly shown he cannot adapt to adverse conditions, and cannot recognize when he needs to change things up.

On the one hand, I am not surprised that a Torontonian is defending Quinn. On the other hand, I am. What exactly has Quinn ever accomplished with the Leafs?

I'm not going to sit here and defend Iginla's performance. Maybe you should take your homer goggles off and look at the significant role your guys played in making this the worst Canadian Olympic hockey team ever.

Is your sarcasm detector broken? Do you get jokes? Please re-read my post.

At no point did I say Quinn coached well this time around (go look for yourself, if you want to bother with the facts).

All I said was that it makes no sense to call Quinn a terrible Team Canada coach when he's won 2/3 of the tournaments he's been to. It's the same as calling Iginla a terrible Team Canada player because he had one crappy tournament. I thought it was a pretty straight-forward point. I showed my cat...he got it.

On the other hand, I'm not surprised to see another Flames fan passing the buck. Remove homer goggles plz. (see what I did there? get it?)

 

[thebodyczech]

One player's lack of production does not account for four lines' lack of production.

 

[Cerebral]

If its a low hard shot, or if he tried to cut inside and took himself out of the play to risk a chance, the other team has a 5-on-3 or 5-on-2.

Iginla made the safe play there. Most guys would have just taken it around the net too, it was a pretty standard, safe play.

I thought Iginla should have made the pass to Sakic far earlier though. He definitely had a pass at the blueline but he carried the puck too deep and allowed the defenceman to get into position. He made the right choice once he was in too deep but he left himself without a great angle for a shot and he eliminated a pass from the equation. Definitely not acceptable when you have half the sheet of ice to make something happen...

 

[Resolute]

Is your sarcasm detector broken? Do you get jokes? Please re-read my post.

I get jokes. Even the piss-poor ones. None the less, you showed you could not defend Quinn as a coach without attacking another player.

All I said was that it makes no sense to call Quinn a terrible Team Canada coach when he's won 2/3 of the tournaments he's been to. It's the same as calling Iginla a terrible Team Canada player because he had one crappy tournament. I thought it was a pretty straight-forward point. I showed my cat...he got it.

Actually, I called Quinn overrated, and suggested that there is a lot more than one pathetic tournament to back up my opinion.

On the other hand, I'm not surprised to see another Flames fan passing the buck. Remove homer goggles plz. (see what I did there? get it?)

Oh look, there you are once again trying to deflect the argument onto someone else. With another bad joke. Wow. Your "humor" is as bad as Quinn's "coaching". Somehow, I expect you will mistake that for a compliment.

 

[Phanuthier*]

I thought Iginla should have made the pass to Sakic far earlier though. He definitely had a pass at the blueline but he carried the puck too deep and allowed the defenceman to get into position. He made the right choice once he was in too deep but he left himself without a great angle for a shot and he eliminated a pass from the equation. Definitely not acceptable when you have half the sheet of ice to make something happen...

I don't think he should have passed it, but your right that he should have made a play earlier. Iginla has a pretty quick release, he should have just ripped a wrister earlier. That's the only critisism I have.

 

[Cawz]

Regehr was Canada's best dman against Russia and was better than Pronger all tournament

And this belongs in a thread about Iginla why?

 

[Lunatik*]

Umm...Regehr was not a 'force' in his own zone. He looked slow out there.

he still skates pretty well for a guy with a metal rod in each leg

 

[Rival39]

Regehr was Canada's best dman against Russia and was better than Pronger all tournament

Regher played half the mins Pronger did. If he did he would of struggled badly. Bad comparison.

 

[oilers144]

Iginla sucks plain and simple
calgary flame fans are homers will say eveything they can to defend the most overated player in the world iginla

 

[RTWAP*]

I get jokes. Even the piss-poor ones.

... another bad joke. Wow. Your "humor" is as bad as Quinn's "coaching". Somehow, I expect you will mistake that for a compliment.

I have it on excellent authority (mine ) that arrbez is the funniest poster on the boards. Odds are if you're not finding his post funny then you're missing something.

 

[SirMcJesusThe1st]

I don't get it, why is it only Flames fans coming to defend Iginla/Regehr? Everyone watched the same games, you can't make excuses for them just because they play for the team you follow.

They were both horrible, along with 90% of the team.