Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman

[Sheppy]

Sweeney said Swayman "categorically denied" that the extra workload was an issue for him or that it contributed to his poor season. Sweeney also suggested that, despite Swayman's feelings, the Bruins are going to go back to more of the 1a/1b model where the goalies have to compete for ice time.

1A vs 1B where neither are 1A's or B's.

2A vs 2B is more like it.

 

[Kate08]

Sweeney said Swayman "categorically denied" that the extra workload was an issue for him or that it contributed to his poor season. Sweeney also suggested that, despite Swayman's feelings, the Bruins are going to go back to more of the 1a/1b model where the goalies have to compete for ice time.

Cool, so swayman gets paid like a #1 but doesn’t have to play like one or carry a #1 workload.

ITS ALMOST LIKE SOME OF US SAW THIS COMING

 

[Sheppy]

Cool, so swayman gets paid like a #1 but doesn’t have to play like one or carry a #1 workload.

ITS ALMOST LIKE SOME OF US SAW THIS COMING

Amazing, right? Here's $8.25M making you the 4th highest paid goaltender in the NHL!

Said this was stupid from the absolute get go. That contract looks even more dumb now, and I thought that was impossible.

 

[TD Charlie]

1A vs 1B where neither are 1A's or B's.

2A vs 2B is more like it.

Well, Swayman and Ullmark performed pretty close to 1A and 1B.

Swayman and Korpisalo played about as well as fringe backups at times.

 

[Sheppy]

Well, Swayman and Ullmark performed pretty close to 1A and 1B.

Swayman and Korpisalo played about as well as fringe backups at times.

They did, but the high paid guy out of that tandem was $5M I believe... and that same guy won a Vezina.

 

[TD Charlie]

They did, but the high paid guy out of that tandem was $5M I believe... and that same guy won a Vezina.

True. At the least, they were paid accordingly at the time.

If Boston is dishing out 8+ for a goalie he's gotta be the guy. Period. If we are looking at a goalie by committee situation already, we are proper f***ed.

 

[Sheppy]

True. At the least, they were paid accordingly at the time.

If Boston is dishing out 8+ for a goalie he's gotta be the guy. Period. If we are looking at a goalie by committee situation already, we are proper f***ed.

That's my concern with what they were saying. $8.25M for split time duty is an absolute shit show. That might be OK for two goaltenders, but not one, lol.

 

[TD Charlie]

That's my concern with what they were saying. $8.25M for split time duty is an absolute shit show. That might be OK for two goaltenders, but not one, lol.

If they are going to go with a split thing again then I'd rather they just cut bait and get rid of Swayman. Either he's the clear #1 or he's not. It's sink or swim.

It almost sounds like they are throwing in the towel already with the goaltending.

 

[Absurdity]

After the press conference and management wanting the goaltending tandem go back to a more even split, 60-40 instead of 70-30, I do question if he will be a Bruin next season.

 

[weaponomega]

I wonder if the Oilers would be interested in a Skinner for Swayman swap or maybe not

 

[goldenblack]

You’re very right about that.

EVERYONE on this board wanted him locked up long term and were pissed because they thought the Bruins were lowballing him.

He had a bad offseason and everyone had a bad training camp. I think everyone should cool off and see what next season brings.

Yikes no.

Many of us were shocked at Sweeney even responding to a spot where the player had zero leverage...

 

[Sheppy]

You’re very right about that.

EVERYONE on this board wanted him locked up long term and were pissed because they thought the Bruins were lowballing him.

He had a bad offseason and everyone had a bad training camp. I think everyone should cool off and see what next season brings.

Don't say everyone.

I was good with him getting locked up, but not for the price they paid.

 

[Alicat]

Don't say everyone.

I was good with him getting locked up, but not for the price they paid.

Same here

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Yikes no.

Many of us were shocked at Sweeney even responding to a spot where the player had zero leverage...

eh, Sweeney gave him a big chunk of leverage by dealing Ullmark before signing him

as much as Swayman wasnt going to sit out the season, Sweeney wasnt going to go into the season with a battery of Koprisalo/Bussi

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Yikes no.

Many of us were shocked at Sweeney even responding to a spot where the player had zero leverage...

Zero???

He got all the leverage once Ulmark was traded.

 

[goldenblack]

Zero???

He got all the leverage once Ulmark was traded.

lol no. What was he going to do, sit a year? He tanks his career doing that.

They had all the leverage. And many of us knew Korpi was going to be reliable too.

 

[Patdud]

Zero???

He got all the leverage once Ullmark was traded.

He was still an RFA, could have gone back to arbitration. They didn't lose the leverage when Ullmark was traded, they lost it when they declined Arbitration.

 

[Eddie Munson]

He was still an RFA, could have gone back to arbitration. They didn't lose the leverage when Ullmark was traded, they lost it when they declined Arbitration.

Someone correct me if wrong. But even if the Bruins brought him to arbitration:

1.- He would get a one year contract that walks him to UFA
2.- You'd have royally pissed him off
3.- You diminished his trade value as he's now a pending UFA goaltender

You'd basically use all of your leverage to get one more year from him and then little to no return.

Note: this is not me defending the brutal contract he received.

 

[Patdud]

Someone correct me if wrong. But even if the Bruins brought him to arbitration:

1.- He would get a one year contract that walks him to UFA
2.- You'd have royally pissed him off
3.- You diminished his trade value as he's now a pending UFA goaltender

You'd basically use all of your leverage to get one more year from him and then little to no return.

Note: this is not me defending the brutal contract he received.

A pissed off swayman is clearly better than a "market resetting" swayman.

 

[goldenblack]

Anything beats THIS

 

[Hookslide]

Sweeney said Swayman "categorically denied" that the extra workload was an issue for him or that it contributed to his poor season. Sweeney also suggested that, despite Swayman's feelings, the Bruins are going to go back to more of the 1a/1b model where the goalies have to compete for ice time.

Lot of money to pay for a part timer, not against the thought or plan, if the team is to follow through with that plan then you must move Swayman.

 

[Hookslide]

After the press conference and management wanting the goaltending tandem go back to a more even split, 60-40 instead of 70-30, I do question if he will be a Bruin next season.

I think you and I are reading Sweeney the same way, we could be waving goodbye to Sway. Bringing up the workload seems a little ridiculous, because his play sucked before his workload was increasing.

 

[Number8]

I disagree. Swayman would have signed a bridge deal if DS had had the stones to tell him "sign it or don't play". You can't win the #1 job if you're not playing at all. Instead Sweeney caved, he traded Ullmark to give Swayman his money & then watched him play like shit all season long.

Jeremy Swayman had better show up for training camp ready to play that's all I can say.

Absolutely 100%. Usually I don't begrudge players getting big contracts and not performing up to those standards. Most times they are UFA and they've done something to earn that deal in the eye's of at least one GM.

But Mr. I Want To Set The Standard for goalies needs to pony up and deliver. If not he will go down as one of my least favorite Bruins ever. Cannot spend $8M+ on a goalie who sucks. And Swayman SUCKED this season -- like league minimum salary sucked.

 

[Number8]

A pissed off swayman is clearly better than a "market resetting" swayman.

I think that's true but you are also being extremely kind in setting your bar.

"market resetting" Swayman so far is one of the shittiest goalies in the League -- his grandmother could have given him a run for his money this season. Putrid.

 

[BMC]

I think that's true but you are also being extremely kind in setting your bar.

"market resetting" Swayman so far is one of the shittiest goalies in the League -- his grandmother could have given him a run for his money this season. Putrid.

So could mine and she's been dead 32 years.