Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman

And are you willing to live with that albatross of a contract, should he not play better, I am not. One just don't trust the player, on and off the ice, from what I have witnessed, on ice performance and his pissy attitude rubs me wrong, and I get the impression, I am not the only one that feels that way.
Swayman doing those goalie hugs did not look like a guy with a bad attitude.The Bruins give him and his agent the keys to the vault and some fans don't like it because other stars took less to play here.He filled his bank account ,good for him .
 
Well, my argument has been since that contract was signed; you need players in front of any goalie, but the cupboard was bare, for anyone else to be added. Admit your mistake and move on the risk is too great to be stuck with that contract, if he flourishes elsewhere so be it.
I have no issue moving him as long as we refill our cupboards
 
Swayman doing those goalie hugs did not look like a guy with a bad attitude.The Bruins give him and his agent the keys to the vault and some fans don't like it because other stars took less to play here.He filled his bank account ,good for him .
Good on him for sure......not many back up goalies get the contract of a number one goalie. Sway pulled it off.
Doesn't mean fans aren't going to notice and talk about the fact that he now sucks.
Or should we just keep slapping him the back for taking management to the wood shed.
 
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Good on him for sure......not many back up goalies get the contract of a number one goalie. Sway pulled it off.
Doesn't mean fans aren't going to notice and talk about the factthat he sucks now.
Or should we just keep slapping him rhe back for taking management to the wood shed.
Tired of your act here bashing Bruins players .
 
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So are you agreeing with me then, or are you saying that extra 3% isn't a big deal?
Both. I don't think the extra 3% is a lot but I think Swayman is overpaid. I was on board with giving him this contract, but that was obviously a mistake.
 
That said, Hellebyuck underperformed in the playoffs last year.....
Year before that as well.
In fact he has had only one decent playoff run in his career.

Swayman is a 6 million dollar man....barely. Yes, he has a Degree in Business, sure. But he is no way a 8.25 goalie.
MIght be repeating myself but I would have grabbed Lankinen in an instant. Solid goalie who has proven his worth at $885,000.00 with the Canucks. Single handedly saved their Going Show season.
 
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Swayman got the ball and he dropped it. I'm so disappointed in him. I'm hoping he rebounds next season with a full camp and fresh mindset.
Swayman has been putrid. His value is too low to trade him right now. Hopefully he rebounds next year and we can trade him without attaching a 1st rounder.
 
Swayman doing those goalie hugs did not look like a guy with a bad attitude.The Bruins give him and his agent the keys to the vault and some fans don't like it because other stars took less to play here.He filled his bank account ,good for him .
You are right good for him, but does not mean the fans should like it, accept, and should show, and their right to their displeasure.
 
Oettinger and Ullmark both signed identical contracts to that of Swayman after he signed his. Oettinger has a bit more pedigree with his playoff runs and Ullmark has a Vézina attached to his name. That said, Swayman is underperforming this year just like the entire team (aside from Geekie & Pasta).

I recall Hellebyuck and Bobrovsky underperforming not that long ago. I give them all a pass and hope the retool goes well and quickly. Swayman shows signs of his worth but needs to be consistent. Sounds like the 2025 Bruins (now in ruins) team.

Top 7 pick is coming.
 
If someone offered to take him for future considerations at this point would you make that move?

I think I would
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F*** NO. If someone offered a top 10 pick, you could make the argument, but F** no

He essentially got the bank because he had a good few weeks in the playoffs.

Coming into this season he was 79-33- 15, with a GAA average around .917 and a GAA around 2.4. This after being the best goaltender in college hockey during his career. He dominated the AHL in the couple dozen games he played at that level.

Everything about his history prior to last postseason pointed to him being someone who would be a top 5-7 goaltender in the league for the length of the new contract. And then he backed it up with a stand on his head performance in postseason.

I don't know why he has failed to perform this year. Some of it is clearly the team in front of him, especially given the defense they have had to play since Lindholm (and later McAvoy) went out. But he was off his game from his first game this year.

Maybe this is the new norm and Swayman will never again be the same player that was indicated by the previous 7 years of his hockey career. But is is absurd to say he got his contract because he had a few good weeks in the playoffs
 
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F*** NO. If someone offered a top 10 pick, you could make the argument, but F** no



Coming into this season he was 79-33- 15, with a GAA average around .917 and a GAA around 2.4. This after being the best goaltender in college hockey during his career. He dominated the AHL in the couple dozen games he played at that level.

Everything about his history prior to last postseason pointed to him being someone who would be a top 5-7 goaltender in the league for the length of the new contract. And then he backed it up with a stand on his head performance in postseason.

I don't know why he has failed to perform this year. Some of it is clearly the team in front of him, especially given the defense they have had to play since Lindholm (and later McAvoy) went out. But he was off his game from his first game this year.

Maybe this is the new norm and Swayman will never again be the same player that was indicated by the previous 7 years of his hockey career. But is is absurd to say he got his contract because he had a few good weeks in the playoffs
Your numbers shine a great view of his play, but the hang up with his contract was he never showed that he could carry the load, that was a concern for many. I have had my criticism of Neely certainly not as a player, but remember the look on his face when he made famous 8 million reasons why quote. I think he would have been happy with the 6-mil number, and he just might turn out to be right. My guess, Sweeney and ownership caved, but I would not be surprised one bit, that he is lobbying ownership to move this guy.
 
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Your numbers shine a great view of his play, but the hang up with his contract was he never showed that he could carry the load, that was a concern for many. I have had my criticism of Neely certainly not as a player, but remember the look on his face when he made famous 8 million reasons why quote. I think he would have been happy with the 6-mil number, and he just might turn out to be right. My guess, Sweeney and ownership caved, but I would not be surprised one bit, that he is lobbying ownership to move this guy.

They might, no doubt about it.

If they make a decision based on the salary negotiations last year, than it will likely be a massive mistake and significantly change the fortune for the franchise for the next 5 season and most likely in the negative direction.

If Sweeney/Neely are basing decisions on personal grudges etc. then they absolutely should be fired
 
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They might, no doubt about it.

If they make a decision based on the salary negotiations last year, than it will likely be a massive mistake and significantly change the fortune for the franchise for the next 5 season and most likely in the negative direction.

If Sweeney/Neely are basing decisions on personal grudges etc. then they absolutely should be fired
My thoughts are Swayman was the one carrying the grudge, going back to his arbitration hearing, that he obviously was not prepared, and that might fall on the agent, or Swayman, the business major did not grasp, what it involved, too harsh for him, I assume. I have thought, and have said it before, that once Swayman, get his NTC, protection, he could be a player that you might not want around, no prove, admittedly, but sometimes I go with my gut.
 
I do feel like Swayman is catching more heat that he deserves. Yes holding out to start the season did him no favors. And yes he could be playing better. But the team in front of him is hot garbage right now. If we had traded Swayman instead of Ullmark most people here would have been upset with the trade at the time, and, if we're honest, Linus wouldn't look that much that much better than Sway (if at all).
 
Your numbers shine a great view of his play, but the hang up with his contract was he never showed that he could carry the load, that was a concern for many. I have had my criticism of Neely certainly not as a player, but remember the look on his face when he made famous 8 million reasons why quote. I think he would have been happy with the 6-mil number, and he just might turn out to be right. My guess, Sweeney and ownership caved, but I would not be surprised one bit, that he is lobbying ownership to move this guy.
I agree. Oilers or Canes?
 
Swayman doing those goalie hugs did not look like a guy with a bad attitude.The Bruins give him and his agent the keys to the vault and some fans don't like it because other stars took less to play here.He filled his bank account ,good for him .
OK that he filled his bank account so he isn't bitter for the next 8 years. But signing the fat contract means he has to play his ass off and steal some games for the team. He hasn't held up his end of the bargain.
 
Swayman doing those goalie hugs did not look like a guy with a bad attitude.The Bruins give him and his agent the keys to the vault and some fans don't like it because other stars took less to play here.He filled his bank account ,good for him .
Don't be fool be the emotion of the moment - when winning comes, it's easy to be happy. Adversity shows true character. Maybe he needs something to be pissed off about, so he plays better.

The question is, which is the anomaly - his play this season or his playoff run last year? He wouldn't be the first athlete to collect a paycheck after cashing in. The thing is, he has the ability to be very good, but what drives his motivation? And based on this season, where does his competitiveness to be the best go once he has let in 3 or 4 goals? Just how strong is his mental fortitude?

Yeah, this year could be a result of a perfect storm team wide, so I'm willing to give him until trade deadline next year to show his true worth. And inspite of everything written previously I hope for the sake of the team he dominates next year. If not, management has to decide what to do before his trade protection kicks in.
 
I do feel like Swayman is catching more heat that he deserves. Yes holding out to start the season did him no favors. And yes he could be playing better. But the team in front of him is hot garbage right now. If we had traded Swayman instead of Ullmark most people here would have been upset with the trade at the time, and, if we're honest, Linus wouldn't look that much that much better than Sway (if at all).

The team especially the last couple of month have been hot garbage. But Sway has been inconsistent. There are nights he looks like himself. Nights he is completely under siege and really has no chance. then there are days he gives up 2-3 wtf goals.
 
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