Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman

[Mad-Marcus]

This was the entire argument for not giving him 55-65 game/yr money. I hate being right, but, it is what it is.
Maybe he'll have a bounce back year in 25-26. Especially is they split the games 50/50 in the regular season.
It's one thing to get beat because your D fails you, but to miss shots with direct vision is unacceptible at the NHL starter level. This is on him.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

All we can do now is hope that he rebounds next year and actually resembles an NHL goalie. Management should have let him sit but they unfortunately caved and now we’re stuck with him until the end of time.

 

[Hookslide]

What last night proved is possibly showing that he can’t play the bulk of games and needs to have a more even split with another goalie

Correct and that was one of the points being made was that he never has carried the load, and they paid him anyways. Why do I get the feeling without any inside info, but that Sweeney pushed for this contract, and Neely was ready to dig in his heels, recognizing he had the leverage, play or get paid.

All we can do now is hope that he rebounds next year and actually resembles an NHL goalie. Management should have let him sit but they unfortunately caved and now we’re stuck with him until the end of time.

Trade him is the best medicine, he was the contributing factor to the this split in the lockeroom. Move on from him.

 

[Midship]

One of the top 5-10 worst contracts in the NHL?

 

[Gilles Bilodeau]

I agree. Swayman had 1 playoff series win and shit the bed in game 7 in 2023. Never played more than 42 games in a season and should have been offered a bridge deal at 2 years at 4.5 to 5 million a season. That is a prove it to me contract

 

[Fire Sweeney]

One of the top 5-10 worst contracts in the NHL?

It's so bad that it earns 2-3 spots on its own.

 

[Hookslide]

I agree. Swayman had 1 playoff series win and shit the bed in game 7 in 2023. Never played more than 42 games in a season and should have been offered a bridge deal at 2 years at 4.5 to 5 million a season. That is a prove it to me contract

I do not believe he would have signed that contract, but it would have been a benefit to add to the roster in front of him. Sweeney, should have signed him before he lost all leverage when he moved Ullmark, I know there a timeline with Ullmark has far as his no trade protection, but Swayman contract should have been settled well before any deadlines. Swayman needs to be moved just to get out from under that contract, some say a 1st, I say get what you can without retainment, and go with a goalie rotation, does not matter who the goaltenders are if you have nothing in front of them.

 

[Absurdity]

I'll be worried about Swayman if he doesn't look more like he did in 2023-2024 next season.

 

[Hookslide]

I'll be worried about Swayman if he doesn't look more like he did in 2023-2024 next season.

Next season will be too late, move him now.

 

[Absurdity]

Next season will be too late, move him now.

Not sure anyone would want him. Who would be your starting goalie next season?

 

[Gilles Bilodeau]

I do not believe he would have signed that contract, but it would have been a benefit to add to the roster in front of him. Sweeney, should have signed him before he lost all leverage when he moved Ullmark, I know there a timeline with Ullmark has far as his no trade protection, but Swayman contract should have been settled well before any deadlines. Swayman needs to be moved just to get out from under that contract, some say a 1st, I say get what you can without retainment, and go with a goalie rotation, does not matter who the goaltenders are if you have nothing in front of them.

Not sure anyone would want him. Who would be your starting goalie next season?

 

[Gilles Bilodeau]

Korpasalo,DiPietro and Bussi can lead us through the next 2 to seasons of dark ages no chance of playoff hockey that we are facing.

 

[Fenian24]

One of the top 5-10 worst contracts in the NHL?

Right up there with Elias Lindholm's, and I liked both of those deals so I can't blame Sweeney for being a dunderhead in making them.

 

[Hookslide]

Not sure anyone would want him. Who would be your starting goalie next season?

You need to upgrade this roster, what is filling out this roster in front of any goalie is just not acceptable. Do you want to get stuck with Swaymans, contract for another seven years, not me. You have Korpisalo, and maybe DePietro, but an 8.2 mil goalie, just does not cut it when you have your top two defenseman, with health concerns, your offense is dismal, and your prospect pool, is nonexistent in my estimation, and I hope some young players that Sweeney got at the TDKL, might surprise, but that is not enough. Sweeney, will have to make a push in FA, and don't get stupid like he did last year, and he neeeds to draft better than he has in the past, trades should also be another route to examine. I sorry, but 3-6 years of this bullshit is not acceptable.

 

[gerrycheeversmask]

Swayman was having a very good game, until the 2nd goal. Another last minute goal.
It seemed like Swayman was on his knees for 5 minutes before Doroyefev even fired the puck.
He goes down way too easy, and open ups the top part of the net in doing so. I see this time and time again.
This needs to be corrected.

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

I think any hope they can or will trade Sway is desperation. No one is taking that contract after this season, better to hope he rebounds next year.

 

[Fenian24]

Korpasalo,DiPietro and Bussi can lead us through the next 2 to seasons of dark ages no chance of playoff hockey that we are facing.

Geekie-Zacha-Pasta
Bennett-Mittlestadt-Marner
Khusnutdinov-Poitras-Lindholm
Lauko-Minten-Kastellic

Lindholm-McAvoy
Zadorov-Jokiharju
Lohrei-Peeke

Korpasalo
Good backup

That's not dark ages, that's a playoff team that can win a couple rounds. I'm assuming Sweeney takes Hagens (BC, small, at least a couple years away) so no help from this years draft.

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[ODAAT]

let`s call a spade a spade, while Sway has had a few nice moments this year, his game , much like his teammates, has been ass most of the year. Yep, he hasn`t gotten a ton of help but his rebound control, his movements from post to post has been noticeably slower and we are way past the point of being able to say this was due to a missed camp

I`m not as sold on the B`s long term goalie solution as some here are

 

[Hookslide]

Swayman was having a very good game, until the 2nd goal. Another last minute goal.
It seemed like Swayman was on his knees for 5 minutes before Doroyefev even fired the puck.
He goes down way too easy, and open ups the top part of the net in doing so. I see this time and time again.
This needs to be corrected.

It does you are correct, a fresh start somewhere else, might work wonders for him, I do know it would for me.

 

[Number8]

Swayman really really didn't like arbitration it seems. Lucky for him, he doesn't have to go through it again.

Below are the 15 worst teams in the League based on Points Percentage -- and the goalies for those teams who have played more than 20 games.

Swayman is in Blue Type -- Boston is ranked 24th in League. Currently in the 9th pick slot.

Goalies with numbers in RED TYPE have same as or better numbers than Swayman for GAA or SV%. In many cases both.

Getting paid like one of the best, but arguably playing like one of the worst goalies in the NHL.

Rank (Worst to "Best")	TEAM	GOALIE	GP	GAA	SV%
18	MTL	Montembeault	51	2.86	.900
19	NYI	Sorokin	52	2.72	.908
20	UTA	Ingram	22	3.27	.882
20	UTA	Vejmelka	46	2.49	.908
21	CLB	Merlikins	45	3.00	.897
22	DET	Mrazek	37	3.57	.891
22	DET	Talbot	37	2.96	.901
22	DET	Lyon	25	2.77	.900
23	NYR	Quick	21	3.14	.896
23	NYR	Shesterkin	52	2.81	.907
24	BOSTON	SWAYMAN	50	3.04	.896
24	BOS	Korpisalo	23	2.78	.896
25	ANA	Dostal	44	2.96	.908
25	ANA	Gibson	27	2.75	.913
26	PIT	Nedeljkovic	33	3.17	.891
26	PIT	Jarry	27	3.13	.895
27	SEA	Grubauer	24	3.59	.873
27	SEA	Daccord	47	2.67	.909
28	PHI	Ersson	40	3.03	.885
28	PHI	Fedetov	22	2.49	.887
29	BUF	Luukkonen	50	3.16	.898
30	NAS	Annunen	27	3.06	.889
30	NAS	Saros	50	2.49	.896
31	CHI	Knight	29	2.49	.907
32	SJ	Georgiev	41	3.64	.875

 

[mjhfb]

let`s call a spade a spade, while Sway has had a few nice moments this year, his game , much like his teammates, has been ass most of the year. Yep, he hasn`t gotten a ton of help but his rebound control, his movements from post to post has been noticeably slower and we are way past the point of being able to say this was due to a missed camp

I`m not as sold on the B`s long term goalie solution as some here are

I think many would be less worried about Swayman if he stole a few games, but that just hasn't happened. Any NHL goalie can make a great save here and there.

 

[TD Charlie]

Swayman really really didn't like arbitration it seems. Lucky for him, he doesn't have to go through it again.

Below are the 15 worst teams in the League based on Points Percentage -- and the goalies for those teams who have played more than 20 games.

Swayman is in Blue Type -- Boston is ranked 24th in League. Currently in the 9th pick slot.

Goalies with numbers in RED TYPE have same as or better numbers than Swayman for GAA or SV%. In many cases both.

Getting paid like one of the best, but arguably playing like one of the worst goalies in the NHL.

Rank (Worst to "Best")	TEAM	GOALIE	GP	GAA	SV%
18	MTL	Montembeault	51	2.86	.900
19	NYI	Sorokin	52	2.72	.908
20	UTA	Ingram	22	3.27	.882
20	UTA	Vejmelka	46	2.49	.908
21	CLB	Merlikins	45	3.00	.897
22	DET	Mrazek	37	3.57	.891
22	DET	Talbot	37	2.96	.901
22	DET	Lyon	25	2.77	.900
23	NYR	Quick	21	3.14	.896
23	NYR	Shesterkin	52	2.81	.907
24	BOSTON	SWAYMAN	50	3.04	.896
24	BOS	Korpisalo	23	2.78	.896
25	ANA	Dostal	44	2.96	.908
25	ANA	Gibson	27	2.75	.913
26	PIT	Nedeljkovic	33	3.17	.891
26	PIT	Jarry	27	3.13	.895
27	SEA	Grubauer	24	3.59	.873
27	SEA	Daccord	47	2.67	.909
28	PHI	Ersson	40	3.03	.885
28	PHI	Fedetov	22	2.49	.887
29	BUF	Luukkonen	50	3.16	.898
30	NAS	Annunen	27	3.06	.889
30	NAS	Saros	50	2.49	.896
31	CHI	Knight	29	2.49	.907
32	SJ	Georgiev	41	3.64	.875

Kinda puts the "but he's on a bad team!" argument to rest.

All these guys are on shit teams, yet Swayman still stands head (and sometimes shoulders!) above the rest on the suck scale

 

[ODAAT]

I think many would be less worried about Swayman if he stole a few games, but that just hasn't happened. Any NHL goalie can make a great save here and there.

won`t get any disagreement from me friend

 

[RoccoF14]

This is ANOTHER example of why you don't pay premium money to goaltenders. ANY goaltender, not just Swayman. Its also another example of why you don't leave yourself without any leverage during a contract negotiation by trading one of your goalies before the other one is extended.

85% of the people on this board wanted Swayman extended and wanted him to get paid. There's a lot of selective amnesia around here regarding that. My how things have changed.....

 

[TD Charlie]

This is ANOTHER example of why you don't pay premium money to goaltenders. ANY goaltender, not just Swayman. Its also another example of why you don't leave yourself without any leverage during a contract negotiation by trading one of your goalies before the other one is extended.

85% of the people on this board wanted Swayman extended and wanted him to get paid. There's a lot of amnesia around here regarding that. My how things have changed.....

I'm in that 85. I wasnt pleased about the leverage thing but certainly didn't expect Swayman to fall on his face so quickly. Contract was just a hair too high for my preferences, but I felt he was a worthy gamble.

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