Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

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smithformeragent

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We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.


BOSTON — Boston Bruins president Cam Neely suggested Monday that the team has made an eight-year offer to unsigned restricted free agent goaltender Jeremy Swayman at $8 million annually.

“I don’t want to get into the weeds with what his ask is,” Neely said at a news conference at TD Garden. “But I know that I have 64 million reasons why I’d be playing right now.”

Neely did not disclose what Swayman’s ask has been but said he was surprised by it.

So far, Swayman is holding firm to his demand. It aligns with his personality of not backing down, especially following his uncomfortable 2023 arbitration hearing. According to Neely, Swayman wants to set a new market for goalies, specifically ones under team control.

“What his ask is and what we believe his comp group is,” Neely said, “are two different things.”

General manager Don Sweeney said he remains in contact with Lewis Gross, Swayman’s agent. The Bruins are not interested in trading Swayman.

“Ultimately, we’re a better team, as I’ve said all along, if Jeremy is part of our hockey club,” Sweeney said. “That’s my intention. That’s my wish. I’ll continue to work to do that. I think Jeremy and the team are both hurt in this regard. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll continue to work hard to find a settling point.”

With only three preseason games left, it is likely Swayman will miss regular-season time, even if an agreement is pending. Coach Jim Montgomery designated Joonas Korpisalo as his goalie for the regular-season opener against the Florida Panthers on Oct. 8, regardless of Swayman’s situation. The Bruins have two full practices remaining in camp.

“Where we are in camp right now, with how well camp has gone and how well Korpisalo has done,” Montgomery said, “right now, he’s going to be our Game 1 starter.”

How good is the offer?​

Swayman would become the fifth-highest-paid goalie in the NHL under the Bruins’ offer, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Connor Hellebuyck and Ilya Sorokin. Only Vasilevskiy ($9.5 million average annual value) signed his contract as a pending restricted free agent. The others were due to become unrestricted.

It is a significant payday for Swayman, considering he has never been a regular-season No. 1 goalie.

 
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Also bruins can offer him leag min of $750 k
He would have to accept it or just sit out for this year and if they want to do it again next year
 

PB37

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I really wish Gross simply hadn't leaked the offer from the Bruins to Spittin'. This is where everything went sour. Up until that point, it was a closed door negotiation. Now everyone is in the mud slinging it around. Can we all agree that it started there?

To be clear, I'm not certain on the money he deserves or should get but rather angry that the whole situation took a curve in the wrong direction and I think the entire fanbase could agree it started right there.

it started last year when Swayman mentioned in separate interviews the hardships he had to endure hearing who the Bruins were comparing him too and having to chin up and play on. Poor guy. It continued when he went on video bragging about his business degree shield of armor he's proudly wearing and that he knows who is comparables are and insinuated he wants to be a goaltender salary trailblazer. Then it was the leaked info to Chicklets and that seemed to be the last straw as far as letting their side bitch in the media without firing back.
 
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LSCII

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No you’re really not seeing the irony. You just used a comp to gauge his value.
Nah. Your comps are based on position and what specific players are making because of where they play. Mine was based on the market value for the entire league regardless of what position and stats of similar players at that position did.
 

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How is it 2024 and people still don't understand that contracts are paying for future expected performance?
Is said performance guaranteed? Because the contract sure is. If Boston pays him $9.5 (which they won’t) can Swayman guarantee them two Vezinas and two Cups? If not then Boston is taking a risk too. And 8/8 (or 7.8/8) is what they’re willing to risk. If he doesn’t like it let him see how many other teams are willing to risk more.

Edit: at 9.5 Boston is assuming *all* of the risk. That’s not how it works, bro. They’re guaranteeing you an 8 year contract, you have to give something in return too. Or we can just go game to game, and if you ever lose two in a row you can go back to Alaska and pump gas with your business degree. Your call.
 
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Or… well maybe not anymore. So many fans have made up their minds about Swayman now - so much so that they’re willing to take a massive L who seems to have a not so good reputation just to never see him in a Bruins uniform again.
...and that would be too bad. Swayman is/was VERY popular with Bruin's fans (kids love him). He is just naive and (IMO) swayed by his agent who seems to not have a very good reputation.

I really hope this works out and he gets signed...and ditches his agent.

It needs to happen soon.
 

NDiesel

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Nah. Your comps are based on position and what specific players are making because of where they play. Mine was based on the market value for the entire league regardless of what position and stats of similar players at that position did.
It doesn't matter what type of comps are used, you literally said on multiple occassions that comps are useless in negotiations. Period. But then just showed you have to use then, proving them not useless.
 
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It will all work out with Swayman.
Having said that , Ulmark would have been who I kept and Swayman traded. Being that they both wanted to play 55 + games.
 

danpantz

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If Swaymans comps are the top skaters in the league he should be playing 82 games a year unless he’s injured.
 
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It doesn't matter what type of comps are used, you literally said thay comps are useless in negotiations. Period. But then just showed you have to use then, proving them not useless.
No, I used the market. You can split hairs if you want, but I did not use any goalie to reach the numbers. I could also have just as easily pulled the numbers out of thin air because what a goalie signed for 4 years ago is irrelevant to what a guy signs for today. The money is different because the market is different, player comps aside.
 

NDiesel

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No, I used the market. You can split hairs if you want, but I did not use any goalie to reach the numbers. I could also have just as easily pulled the numbers out of thin air because what a goalie signed for 4 years ago is irrelevant to what a guy signs for today. The money is different because the market is different, player comps aside.
Yeah and who makes up the market you compared to? Players and goalies.

Either way, I am using the words YOU used. You didn't say player comps or goalie comps, you said COMPS are useless in negotiations
 

Coach Parker

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Friedman confirmed it as so this morning. The Bruins felt like the negotiations went public. It's not that it was only numbers leaking, it was said that the Bruins "lowballed" Swayman and haven't returned Gross' calls for three weeks. It was a public shot at the Bruins' credibility and reputation while negotiations were taking place.
Thank you. I really see that as the point where I tuned out and just begun checking in for real updates.

Since that moment, the entire thing has become a circus and public display of a negotiation.

A mess.
 
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LSCII

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If Swaymans comps are the top skaters in the league he should be playing 82 games a year unless he’s injured.
His comps aren't any players. It's the dollar value the league pays. Big difference.

Yeah and who makes up the market you compared to? Players and goalies.

Either way, I am using the words YOU used. You didn't say player comps or goalie comps, you said COMPS are useless in negotiations
No, I said comps are useless because of them being biased based on who was picking them. Big difference.
 

MarchysNoseKnows

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His comps aren't any players. It's the dollar value the league pays. Big difference.


No, I said comps are useless because of them being biased based on who was picking them. Big difference.
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