Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

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How does this saga end?

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smithformeragent

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We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.


BOSTON — Boston Bruins president Cam Neely suggested Monday that the team has made an eight-year offer to unsigned restricted free agent goaltender Jeremy Swayman at $8 million annually.

“I don’t want to get into the weeds with what his ask is,” Neely said at a news conference at TD Garden. “But I know that I have 64 million reasons why I’d be playing right now.”

Neely did not disclose what Swayman’s ask has been but said he was surprised by it.

So far, Swayman is holding firm to his demand. It aligns with his personality of not backing down, especially following his uncomfortable 2023 arbitration hearing. According to Neely, Swayman wants to set a new market for goalies, specifically ones under team control.

“What his ask is and what we believe his comp group is,” Neely said, “are two different things.”

General manager Don Sweeney said he remains in contact with Lewis Gross, Swayman’s agent. The Bruins are not interested in trading Swayman.

“Ultimately, we’re a better team, as I’ve said all along, if Jeremy is part of our hockey club,” Sweeney said. “That’s my intention. That’s my wish. I’ll continue to work to do that. I think Jeremy and the team are both hurt in this regard. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll continue to work hard to find a settling point.”

With only three preseason games left, it is likely Swayman will miss regular-season time, even if an agreement is pending. Coach Jim Montgomery designated Joonas Korpisalo as his goalie for the regular-season opener against the Florida Panthers on Oct. 8, regardless of Swayman’s situation. The Bruins have two full practices remaining in camp.

“Where we are in camp right now, with how well camp has gone and how well Korpisalo has done,” Montgomery said, “right now, he’s going to be our Game 1 starter.”

How good is the offer?​

Swayman would become the fifth-highest-paid goalie in the NHL under the Bruins’ offer, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Connor Hellebuyck and Ilya Sorokin. Only Vasilevskiy ($9.5 million average annual value) signed his contract as a pending restricted free agent. The others were due to become unrestricted.

It is a significant payday for Swayman, considering he has never been a regular-season No. 1 goalie.

 
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AlwaysSunnyInDetroit

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i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you
 

SwayHeyKid

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Not really. It's their own pick this year (which any projection would be later in the round). He was asked about trading their #10 this year for a goalie and scoffed at it.
Ah ok agreed. The previous regime did it for Schneider. I would give pick 8-10 for Swayman if I needed a long term goalie though.
 

Over the volcano

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How would you feel if I told you a certain other Bruins goalie who signed an 8 yr deal starting their age 26 season had a career high games played of 45 (39 starts), and 1 more career start (126 vs 125) and the cap hit % they signed for would be $9.6M with this year's salary cap?
Was that after his playoff run of 22 games 1.88GA and .940 save%?

And didn't every bad thing that happened to the team turn into his fault afterwards?
 

SwayHeyKid

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i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you
Yzerman would walk to Boston and fireman’s carry Swayman back to Detroit if available
 
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Son of Donegal

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i'm only 26 pages in but a lot of people in this thread talking about trade returns

i gotta say, as a fan of another team, this guy has major negative value. i wouldn't trade a cap dump for him. swayman is on record saying he wants to set the market, the biggest scumbag agent in the game, and you want me to give up positive assets just to watch them drag my front office through mud? no thank you
Assuming an 8 year deal gets done, it's just short term pain for long term gain as he looks like a top 5 goalie and all-star.

Unless you prefer "more compliant" goaltenders like these guys.

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SwayHeyKid

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You are really overvaluing Sway. No one going to pay him his asking price AND give up assets as well
What is he asking for?

Amazing these seven threads on Sway have gotten to the point where people honestly have convinced themselves he has no value now. Utterly stupendous.
 

Boston BROin

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Watch him wait until the first week of the season to make a decision. Korpisalo shits the bed? Not signing anything under $9. Korpisalo plays lights out? 'QUICK, get me a pen to sign at $8!'
 

mjd1001

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For me, its not even the consistency. Its just the fact that the incremental salary you pay for a top 5 guy isn't worth the incremental results you get.

Take last year. Swayman and Ullmark had almost identical numbers. Both very good, top 10 years. One's making $5mil, the other.......lets assume $8mil this year. Even IF you assume Swayman has a year similar to Hellebuyck did last year (not counting the shitty performance in the playoffs), is that worth an additional $3mil? What about if Swayman has a similar year this year as he did last? Is that better than having Ullmark +$3mil in cap space? That could have gotten you a player like Jeff Skinner or Adam Henrique (or whomever...)
With Skinner specifically, i wouldn't want him at all, even at a very low cost.

He's entering the decline in terms of offensive production. He plays zero defense, and when I say that I really mean it. I saw more than one Buffalo game where the puck went into the Sabres own zone and he came back late, then literally stopped at the blue line and just stood there. Didn't help out deep, didn't even take a high zone to cover, just straddled the blue line.

The Sabres are trying to compete this year and are taking a cap hit to to buy him out. Lindy Ruff came back in and basically must have said..yeah, I'd rather pay him not to play.

Brindamour took over in carolina and within a year wanted a young Jeff Skinner out of there. In Buffalo, Ralph Krueger was making him a healthy scratch, Ruff wanted no part of him. He MIGHT have a decently productive scoring year playing with McDavid and Draisatl in Edmonton simply as a function of having SOME offensive talent and playing with them, but at this point in his career he is NOT a player that helps a team like Boston, or most other teams, win in the regular season or playoffs.
 

TD Charlie

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Watch him wait until the first week of the season to make a decision. Korpisalo shits the bed? Not signing anything under $9. Korpisalo plays lights out? 'QUICK, get me a pen to sign at $8!'
Offer subject to change

Hate to be a jerk about it, but this is a very delicate situation and circumstances are a changin’

Just like if Korpisalo is horrendous, I expect Swayman/Gross to sit back and let the offer increase bit by bit.
 

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