Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII- Swayman's agent basically calls Cam a liar

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How does this saga end?

  • Bridge deal

    Votes: 44 21.8%
  • Long term deal

    Votes: 57 28.2%
  • Trade

    Votes: 101 50.0%

  • Total voters
    202

smithformeragent

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@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.


BOSTON — Boston Bruins president Cam Neely suggested Monday that the team has made an eight-year offer to unsigned restricted free agent goaltender Jeremy Swayman at $8 million annually.

“I don’t want to get into the weeds with what his ask is,” Neely said at a news conference at TD Garden. “But I know that I have 64 million reasons why I’d be playing right now.”

Neely did not disclose what Swayman’s ask has been but said he was surprised by it.

So far, Swayman is holding firm to his demand. It aligns with his personality of not backing down, especially following his uncomfortable 2023 arbitration hearing. According to Neely, Swayman wants to set a new market for goalies, specifically ones under team control.

“What his ask is and what we believe his comp group is,” Neely said, “are two different things.”

General manager Don Sweeney said he remains in contact with Lewis Gross, Swayman’s agent. The Bruins are not interested in trading Swayman.

“Ultimately, we’re a better team, as I’ve said all along, if Jeremy is part of our hockey club,” Sweeney said. “That’s my intention. That’s my wish. I’ll continue to work to do that. I think Jeremy and the team are both hurt in this regard. That’s what I’ll do. I’ll continue to work hard to find a settling point.”

With only three preseason games left, it is likely Swayman will miss regular-season time, even if an agreement is pending. Coach Jim Montgomery designated Joonas Korpisalo as his goalie for the regular-season opener against the Florida Panthers on Oct. 8, regardless of Swayman’s situation. The Bruins have two full practices remaining in camp.

“Where we are in camp right now, with how well camp has gone and how well Korpisalo has done,” Montgomery said, “right now, he’s going to be our Game 1 starter.”

How good is the offer?​

Swayman would become the fifth-highest-paid goalie in the NHL under the Bruins’ offer, behind Sergei Bobrovsky, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Connor Hellebuyck and Ilya Sorokin. Only Vasilevskiy ($9.5 million average annual value) signed his contract as a pending restricted free agent. The others were due to become unrestricted.

It is a significant payday for Swayman, considering he has never been a regular-season No. 1 goalie.

 
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TD Charlie

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haha you and I are on the same page there. I like $7-$7.5 anything $8-$9 seems to high for me but i would be able to accept $8. $9-$10 is an easy that's too much money for me based on his resume.
Yeah I think 8 is alright for MOST people
Another interesting think I've noticed in this debate is that regardless if you're pro-managment or pro-Sway , it seems pretty unanimous that 8/8 is a more than fair offer.
See above.

Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria
 

smithformeragent

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all good points.

when they brought Fernandez in Thomas was in his third year playing over 30 games and not a backup and posted .917 and .905 the two years leading up to that.

the year Fernandez came in to challenge Timmy for his spot Timmy put up .921 and Fernandez played 4 games.

the next year Thomas played 54 with a .933 and Fernandez played 28 with a .910. I wouldn't call that cooked i would say Thomas won the job and that seems to be the start of the Bruins trying to carry two very solid goalies very season.

2008-2009
Thomas - Fernandez

2009-2012
Thomas .915; .938; .920- Rask .931; .918; .929 - For 3 full seasons after Rask stole the backup role from Fernandaz after Thomas store the starting job from Fernandez

2012-2013
Rask .929 - Khudobin .920

2013-2014
Rask .930 -Johnson .925

2014-2015
Rask .922 - Svedberg .918

2015-2016
Rask .915 - Gustavsson .908

2016 - 2017
Rask .915 - Khudobin .904

2017 - 2018
Rask .919 - Khudobin .913

2018 - 2019
Rask .912 - Halak .922

2019 - 2020
Rask .929 - Halak .919

2021 - 2022
Ullmark .917 - Swayman .914

2022 - 2023
Ullmark .938 - Swayman .920

thats a pretty crazy history of goalie duos with Non of them having a sv % under .904 at the lowest.

i would love to go back and look at the boards worries between the 2019-2030 season and the 2021-2022 season when we went from Rask/Halak to Ullmark/Swayman. I am sure the comments were look went we went from last year to this year its going to be a dumpster fire lets fire everyone.

worked out pretty good.
And Rask won the job in 2010, but Thomas won it back in 2011.

Thomas was not a happy camper during the Summer of 2010. I remember he removed all of the gold from his mask and pads as an FU to the club.

Rask started game one against the Coyotes in Prague, and Thomas the 2nd game.

I remember when Hannu Toivonen was going to be the next guy.
You just never know what strange twists and turns are going to happen.

Many killed the Ullmark UFA signing, and it turned out to be excellent value.
 
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MarchysNoseKnows

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I think that this is what the Bruins' brass wants the narrative to be.

However, by locking in at 8 years for that cap hit, Swayman likely leaves millions on the table during his prime years.

If I'm Swayman, give me the $8m per, but times 2 years and I want another bite at the apple when I can lock in at $10m AAV.

If I'm the club, I say the $8m per is only good if you go long term. If you want 2 years instead, it's at $6.5m.
Again, why on earth would the club give him a bridge deal that walks him to free agency? A two year deal would never be on the table.
 

Scotto74

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Because he's restricted and because you're trying to compete and make a run.

If he's not going to sign long term, when what's the alternative?

Let him sit out? Trade him for pennies on the dollar?
exactly sign him to a bridge deal and then if he proves he can continue what he has done so far and you feel he will never sign with you long term flip him at the trade deadline for a kings ransom.
 
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