Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

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We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

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[LetsGoBruins97]

So really, the drop dead date isn't December 1st. I mean, at the point, even if Swayman signs for $8m per year the cap hit would be over $10m to the Bruins. They couldn't do that even with a 20 man roster.

The cap hit on November 1st would be $9m and even that leaves them no money for the cap, but they could do it with a skeleton crew roster.

And that's assuming Swayman signs for $8m, which he won't.

After learning this, if he's not signed by the second week of the season, he's not going to play this season. My doubts surrounding a trade remain. He's not getting over $7m/year anywhere else (potentially Utah?), and I don't see how we get enough back to make a trade worth it from the Bruins' perspective.

I think he ultimately signs 8x8.25.

 

[BTO]

How high can the Bruins go? $10.2 million for Swayman and a 13th forward.

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Or we can just give him $12m and go with a 20-man roster. Might have to just to fit his ego in the room. Or we can pay him $8.25 and go with a 23-man roster and pay TJ $1m. Who tf is Jeremy Swayman that we need to lose a roster spot because of him? There’s no “I” in team son. Hell, there isn’t even an “I” in Jeremy Swayman. There are two “y”s tho, and a whole lotta whine.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Now if he did all that after playing 50 RS games, then he'd be worth his price, but he didn't.

I feel a lot better evaluating playoff expectations in a world of actual results, as opposed to a world of 6 RS not played over 6.5 months.

 

[DKH]

After learning this, if he's not signed by the second week of the season, he's not going to play this season. My doubts surrounding a trade remain. He's not getting over $7m/year anywhere else (potentially Utah?), and I don't see how we get enough back to make a trade worth it from the Bruins' perspective.

I think he ultimately signs 8x8.25.

My figure as well

The agent is not getting paid his chunk till he is signed and logically would want 8 years

I wouldn’t trust Swayman to not dump me lol

The agent would be wise to get this done asap before Monday late afternoon

 

[Lord Ahriman]

How high can the Bruins go? $10.2 million for Swayman and a 13th forward.

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Let's say $1M for call ups, injuries and a bit of money for trade deadline, so in reality $9.2M for Swayman and 13th forward. I'd still not offer him a penny over $8M.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

I feel a lot better evaluating playoff expectations in a world of actual results, as opposed to a world of 6 RS not played over 6.5 months.

If you can't trust him over the regular season, you shouldn't trust him for the PO's. But, you do you, but you seem to be in the minority with your take. I can live with that.

I love the player, have since Maine. He'll most likely be worth 10-12 in 3-4 years, but that still is an assumption. The fact that he did go into a slump post AS Game for 6 weeks, shows it can happen. We had Linus to bail him out and get his game together down the stretch. It was during that time that he got "Michigan'd over the shortside stickside. Same side he let his worst go of the PO in, which just happened to end Boston's season.
It is not impossible that the more the league sees him, the more they figure him out. That's why goalies are great for 2 or 3 year and then slowly make their way back to the AHL or overseas.
Do I expect it?, no, not really, but an 8 year, top dollar contract, leaves a team no escape hatch in the event it happens.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I swear on Jack Hughes cute little head I have Judy Collins ‘Both Sides Now’ playing in background

I can see both sides although I wish Cam took his shoe off banged it and thrown it at someone so @LSCII could understand the true meaning of a hissy fit

Listen to the Fred Hersh version. Brings me to tears.

 

[Dr Quincy]

2023-24
David Riddich
.921 2.15 3 shutouts
Just signed for 1 mil

Jeremy Swayman
.916 2.33 3 shutouts
Apparently changed his ask to just under 9mil

Ok now do their career numbers.

Otherwise we can do:
Elias Lindholm- 15g, 29a, 44 pts just signed for 7.75m x 7 years
Tommy Novak- 18, 27, 45.... just signed for 3.5m

#BlameDonny

 

[nORRis8]

After learning this, if he's not signed by the second week of the season, he's not going to play this season. My doubts surrounding a trade remain. He's not getting over $7m/year anywhere else (potentially Utah?), and I don't see how we get enough back to make a trade worth it from the Bruins' perspective.

I think he ultimately signs 8x8.25.

Yup. I agree. No offer sheets
8 million for playing goal.
250,000.00 to buy a load of Kleenex to dam up his tears from all the crying and bitching.

 

[Hookslide]

Not the full amount is my point.

I also believe that it still that it charged to the cap, I could be wrong............I often am

 

[Hookslide]

Ok now do their career numbers.

Otherwise we can do:
Elias Lindholm- 15g, 29a, 44 pts just signed for 7.75m x 7 years
Tommy Novak- 18, 27, 45.... just signed for 3.5m

#BlameDonny

That Lindholm signing is a freakn disgrace, maybe that justifies Swaymans ask .

 

[ranold26]

8.4m X 8 is the closing mark.

 

[Hookslide]

Carey price
0 games
$10.5 per year

Swayman
44 games
Insulted by 4 years $6.5

Sorry I just wanted to continue the stupid comparisons

Yes, Carey Price, that should be a lesson to all.

 

[Over the volcano]

Ok now do their career numbers.

Otherwise we can do:
Elias Lindholm- 15g, 29a, 44 pts just signed for 7.75m x 7 years
Tommy Novak- 18, 27, 45.... just signed for 3.5m

#BlameDonny

or

2023-24
Laurent Brossoit -
.927 2.00 3 shut outs
3mil per for 2 years

Swayman
.916 2.33 3 shutouts
9mil per for 8 years to pay off UMaine text books


BTW I like Novak as a player

 

[Pia8988]

or

2023-24
Laurent Brossoit -
.927 2.00 3 shut outs
3mil per for 2 years

Swayman
.916 2.33 3 shutouts
9mil per for 8 years to pay off UMaine text books


BTW I like Novak as a player

People talk about Swayman not playing enough while you bring up backup after back up. Love this place.

The absolute peak irony is this is less an indictment of Swayman, but a indictment of Korpisalo

 

[Mad-Marcus]

That Lindholm signing is a freakn disgrace, maybe that justifies Swaymans ask .

There lies the difference in how positions have been qualified. Goaltenders historically are not going to get paid what a forward with reasonable stats would make. Fair or not it is the history of positional contract levels.
Swayman wants to change that with a 3 season sample size. We could be talking about either Lindholm contract actually.

 

[Over the volcano]

People talk about Swayman not playing enough while you bring up backup after back up. Love this place.

The absolute peak irony is this is less an indictment of Swayman, but a indictment of Korpisalo

I mean we're talking about guys who haven't been full time goalies, right?

But sure let's do Korpisalo
2022-23
.915 2.87
he's horrid at 3 mil

Swayman
2023-24
.916 2.53
he's a steal at shy of 9 mil


all in fun

 

[Mad-Marcus]

I mean we're talking about guys who haven't been full time goalies, right?

But sure let's do Korpisalo
2022-23
.915 2.87
he's horrid at 3 mil

Swayman
2023-24
.916 2.53
he's a steal at shy of 9 mil


all in fun

old news, low hanging fruit that's been discussed at length since the trade happened
All you folks that want to pay >7.5 can pay higher ticket prices, they stay the same for the rest of us

 

[PlayMakers]

8.4m X 8 is the closing mark.

Yeah that seems to be the “new” mid point.

 

[Pia8988]

I mean we're talking about guys who haven't been full time goalies, right?

But sure let's do Korpisalo
2022-23
.915 2.87
he's horrid at 3 mil

Swayman
2023-24
.916 2.53
he's a steal at shy of 9 mil


all in fun

Ooo ooo. do 2023-2024 Korpisalo! Or are we going to continue being obtuse?

 

[Over the volcano]

Yeah that seems to be the “new” mid point.

Till the next midpoint?

 

[UConn126]

So if it's true the Bruins went to 8 and Swayman is at 8.7-8.8 the Bruins should just pay the loudmouth president tax, go to 8.5 and get it done by Monday afternoon.

This is finally ending peeps, shame on both if it doesn't happen.

I haven't agreed with really any of your takes so far but I'd probably do 8.5 if that gets it done before Monday.

 

[EverettMike]

old news, low hanging fruit that's been discussed at length since the trade happened
All you folks that want to pay >7.5 can pay higher ticket prices, they stay the same for the rest of us

If you think Swayman's contract is going to have any impact on ticket prices......


.......WOOF.

 

[Pia8988]

If you think Swayman's contract is going to have any impact on ticket prices......


.......WOOF.

I think both sides are overpaid, but I'd rather that money in the pocket in the players than ebenezer

 

[BTO]

Till the next midpoint?

“Reports indicate that Jeremy Swayman has raised his ask from the high 8s/low 9s to high 9s/low 10s. Looks like it’ll take a minimum of $9.4m to close the deal.”

8.4m X 8 is the closing mark.

Oh, do you “hear things” too?