Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

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But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[KillerMillerTime]

Players that hire him must like him.

Maybe swayman wants to sit for a while. Wouldn’t be the first gross client that did.

I have asked several times did Nylander fire Gross? Has anyone fired Gross?
If not, why is anyone blaming Gross?

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

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"I went to business school! I'm smart! Not dumb!"

 

[Gee Wally]

"I went to business school! I'm smart! Not dumb!"

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Well played! My compliments!

 

[KillerMillerTime]

No thanks. He'll come in cold and not ready for hockey. If he was a skilled center or winger ok but a goalie who benefits from a system. Nah. Sway was a 4th rd pick there.will be others down the line

Lol, you can't be serious talking with certainty there "will be others down the line".
What Swayman did in last years PO at his age was extremely good.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I have asked several times did Nylander fire Gross? Has anyone fired Gross?
If not, why is anyone blaming Gross?

Nope. They all kept him. He is doing his job. Some Bruins fans are just too thin skinned for that fact

 

[KrejciMVP]

Nope. They all kept him. He is doing his job. Some Bruins fans are just too thin skinned for that fact

By tarnishing his brand? Sounds like he did his client a disservice. At this point people are just watching a dumpster fire.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Sway should have never did these negotiations publicly. Those arbitration comments have gone viral and he's be mocked everywhere in hockey now. Why do that to yourself. He went too far

Those comments were made in January no? Where was all the vitriol back then?

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Nope. They all kept him. He is doing his job. Some Bruins fans are just too thin skinned for that fact

You are far from an expert of identifying people who are thin skinned and who isn't.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

By tarnishing his brand? Sounds like he did his client a disservice. At this point people are just watching a dumpster fire.

Acrimonious negotiations are a dumpster fire? Um ok. Dumpster fire would be a trade or a sit out all season

 

[Bodit9]

Besides the arbitration process, what have the Bruins done that Swayman doesn't like? Here's what the Bruins have done for him.

-They only chose a 1 year contract for arbitration instead of 2 getting him to a big contract earlier
-They traded their other quality goalie so they could make him their #1
-They didn't take him to arbitration this year
-They've offered to make him the 5th highest paid goalie (without taking on a full starter workload, winning a Vezina, or advancing far in the playoffs)

Seems like they've treated him very well.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Guessing the team beta shouldn’t have leaked to Chiclets that the GM is incompetent.

Maybe the FO shouldn't have disrespected Swayman two years in a row, by treating the process like he was some rando buying a house or used car instead of a core piece of a good team?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Acrimonious negotiations are a dumpster fire? Um ok. Dumpster fire would be a trade or a sit out all season

Sways side seems tone def and just can't seem to understand the damage he is doing

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Acrimonious negotiations are a dumpster fire? Um ok. Dumpster fire would be a trade or a sit out all season

If you don't think this whole situation is a dumpster fire then I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

You are far from an expert of identifying people who are thin skinned and who isn't.

Just sticking up for a vital member of my favorite team is all. I agree Gross is being a dolt w the constant leaks just like I call Neely a buffoon. No issues w Swayman and Sweeney here. It’s a contract negotiation. The way people are acting it’s like Swayman urinated over the spoked B at center ice Get a grip folks it’s nothing personal

Sways side seems tone def and just can't seem to understand the damage he is doing

Give me a break. He’s not selling soda or lawn care. Once he signs and plays nobody will even think of this stuff

 

[DKH]

Lot of mistakes here but lessons all over

I’ll tell you if I was a Bruins player I make damn well sure my representatives STFU publicly and I wouldn’t complain publicly about anything other than the referees

Swayman asks for a trade it’s 50/50 if happened he ends up in Columbus or Utah.

maybe that works I doubt it

No trade request yet means negotiations going on

He is catching crap about list and only winning a round but he said the Bruins side said he was basically not trustworthy in the playoffs

Um, he was freakin spectacular and 100% trustworthy

 

[SwayHeyKid]

If you don't think this whole situation is a dumpster fire then I don't know what to tell ya.

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Wow you must live a charmed life if this is a dumpster fire.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Just sticking up for a vital member of my favorite team is all. I agree Gross is being a dolt w the constant leaks just like I call Neely a buffoon. No issues w Swayman and Sweeney here. It’s a contract negotiation. The way people are acting it’s like Swayman urinated over the spoked B at center ice Get a grip folks it’s nothing personal


Give me a break. He’s not selling soda or lawn care. Once he signs and plays nobody will even think of this stuff

Pretty sure Boston fans have a long memory. Bucky dent ? Pesky held the ball? Too many men on the ice. Read your history

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Meaning 85.5% decided to choose Neely or Neither rather than Gross. Or straight out 46.4 Neely truthful vs. 14.5 Gross truthful.

I don’t know but that’s at least reasonably on par with B’s fans in HF posts.

Overall I’d say people across the spectrum aren’t too high on Gross.

I don't get The Athletic, so in the context of "The Echo Chamber" how many people voted and do we have anyway of knowing how many were B's fans? That is probably relevant in the % you are using to bolster your argument.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't get The Athletic, so in the context of "The Echo Chamber" how many people voted and do we have anyway of knowing how many were B's fans? That is probably relevant in the % you are using to bolster your argument.

Sway island can deny the polls but it is what it is

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Sway island can deny the polls but it is what it is

Thanks for providing absolutely NOTHING to a legitimate question.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Thanks for providing absolutely NOTHING to a legitimate question.

Well the more sway lashes out its going to get worse and worse

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Pretty sure Boston fans have a long memory. Bucky dent ? Pesky held the ball? Too many men on the ice. Read your history

How many ex Boston players hated for a contract hold out that ended in a contract?

 

[KrejciMVP]

How many ex Boston players hated for a contract hold out that ended in a contract?

Contentious negotiations will be remembered by Boston fans especially if you don't live up to them

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Guessing the team beta shouldn’t have leaked to Chiclets that the GM is incompetent.

I mean turning Ullmark and Swayman into Korpi and Patera isn’t exactly something you’d like on your resume if we are being honest but they don’t call him Teflon Don around here for nothing

Contentious negotiations will be remembered by Boston fans especially if you don't live up to them

IF.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

I mean turning Ullmark and Swayman into Korpi and Patera isn’t exactly something you’d like on your resume if we are being honest but they don’t call him Teflon Don around here for nothing


IF.

Exactly right. An IF doesn't deserve $9 million or whatever high number you think he should get.