Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - As featured in Episode 3 of Amazon's "FACEOFF: Inside the NHL

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[BruinDust]

Sure about that?

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When was he a star player?

But it's a good example of why you prioritize guys like Swayman and not guys like Elias Lindholm or Nikita Zadorov.

PAY YOUR STARS! If that means one less middle six forward or one less bottom 4 D-man, so be it.

It's stomach turning really to see this franchise commit 7 years to a 29-year old Lindholm after 2 down seasons but draw a hard line in the sand with a 25-year old Swayman.

Neely wants to talk comps? Where was the comps for journeyman Zadorov and his 6-year, 5 million dollar deal? Reality is, there were none. I guess comps don't matter to skaters, only to goalies.

 

[ON3M4N]

I think they are ruthless regardless.
#tuukkasfault

But yeah, it will be ugly real fast.

Its funny you put #TuukkasFault because I was just thinking that goalies seem to be such a lightning rod with Bruins fans. I mean if part of the fan base doesn't hate you are you really a #1 goalie for the Bruins?

 

[DKH]

I think your post might come under the bullshit category, but notice I said I think, I did not say it was....

It’s bull shit - I can smell it thru my iPhone

 

[Hookslide]

It’s bull shit - I can smell it thru my iPhone

If I said it would be warned again, I am learning....haha

 

[Pia8988]

Has an org ever gone so quickly from 2 above average goalies to zero?

 

[DKH]

If I said it would be warned again, I am learning....haha

Lonnie is a great person but take the opposite

Has an org ever gone so quickly from 2 above average goalies to zero?

83 Penguins when they wanted Lemieux

 

[Guelph Bruin]

so if 8x$8M guaranteed is on the table then how is Jeremy going to feed his family? ...I'd hold out ...not.....you'd think as soon as that offer was on the table he'd snatch it up or say "damn we're close lets hammer this out ...maybe give me lifetime business courses on top"

 

[McGarnagle]

We used to have Dollar Bill Guerin, now we've got Jeremy Simoleons

 

[SwayHeyKid]

so if 8x$8M guaranteed is on the table then how is Jeremy going to feed his family? ...I'd hold out ...not.....you'd think as soon as that offer was on the table he'd snatch it up or say "damn we're close lets hammer this out ...maybe give me lifetime business courses on top"

Maybe he wants a 4 year deal from 25 to 29 then cash in on a deal 29-37?

 

[Dr Quincy]

The kings will be in town in a couple of weeks maybe he could be on their plane flying out of Boston, or he could listen to a Dionne Warwick song "do you know the way to San Jose ", but yes Utah would be sweet, and Anaheim still looms out there. Bottom line is his Bruins days are numbered

SJ just traded for Askarov, doubt they'd commit the term to Swayman.

LA doesn't have the cap space. But any team that is trading for Swayman is dealing cap back, and not necessarily in a star or even really good player.

Would probably be a goalie and either middle 6 F + pick/prospect or just a goalie and picks & prospects.

CBJ, ANA and UTA maybe could be landing spots.

 

[smithformeragent]

Maybe it’s because I grew up in a dysfunctional family with two parents that regularly fought, but I love this turmoil as a fan.

My freshman year of college, I wrote a 15 page paper on the recently ended 2004-05 NHL Lockout and the newly negotiated CBA.

I find the business side of the game more compelling than the games at this point.

 

[Bodit9]

When was he a star player?

But it's a good example of why you prioritize guys like Swayman and not guys like Elias Lindholm or Nikita Zadorov.

PAY YOUR STARS! If that means one less middle six forward or one less bottom 4 D-man, so be it.

It's stomach turning really to see this franchise commit 7 years to a 29-year old Lindholm after 2 down seasons but draw a hard line in the sand with a 25-year old Swayman.

Neely wants to talk comps? Where was the comps for journeyman Zadorov and his 6-year, 5 million dollar deal? Reality is, there were none. I guess comps don't matter to skaters, only to goalies.

So you want the Bruins to copy the Leafs model? Bizarre....

 

[Grimey]

Maybe he wants a 4 year deal from 25 to 29 then cash in on a deal 29-37?

I could’ve sworn I read that both sides prefer a long-term deal but 99% of what’s been floating around the internet seems to be BS

 

[SPV]

I feel like if we took a poll, a majority of us would think 8x8 is enough to get it done.

I hate to say it, but I’d kick the tires on the trade market.

 

[Alicat]

Sure about that?

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We paid Marty to guide Bergy. Worth the money in the long run

 

[PB37]

Most of the hockey community: "That was pretty dumb on Neely's part"

Bruins fans: "Kick his ass Sea Bass"

If you want to play the " what others are thinking " game, you should take a look at other fan base responses. Most agree with the Bruins. Considering how much the Bruins are despised by the fans of other teams, that says a lot.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I could’ve sworn I read that both sides prefer a long-term deal but 99% of what’s been floating around the internet seems to be BS

Same but who knows.

 

[Bodit9]

Hopefully not

Lot of things to look at when he signs

Will he be the upbeat guy
Teammates reception - only he will know (what he wants could cause a player to be moved)
Will fans be on him
And most importantly is he very good

Lots of pressure

Not sure if agent read the room or part of Swayman was a means to an end when it comes to dealing with Donny

I don't think forcing Sweeney to trade players to fit in his salary is a good strategy. If he likes Boston and wants to stay here, he should take the guaranteed $64M. Make money on the side with endorsements. Set for generations.

 

[UncleRico]

Not someone who generally supports management, but I think have really kept a lid n it until today, Swayman has been pissing and moaning for about a year. I think Neely has had enough.

Ehh I guess that all depends where you think the rumors of swayman signing two weeks ago came from.

Personally I think that’s where the bruins offered the 8x8 and someone in the organization leaked it thinking they had swayman or as a way to start getting the media on their side.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

If you want to play the " what others are thinking " game, you should take a look at other fan base responses. Most agree with the Bruins.

Most would love Sway as their goalie too I would imagine. What Neely did was stupid and if you can't see that I'm not sure what to say,

 

[BruinDust]

So you want the Bruins to copy the Leafs model? Bizarre....

Leafs model doesn't work because they spent it all on forwards.

Imagine if the Leafs had Matthews and Nylander, and then spent the other 20 million on a legit No.1 D-man and a legit star No.1 goaltender.

Seems like what fans around here want is an expansion Vegas or Seattle model, where they have no stars just 18 mediocre skaters making roughly the same amount and 2 average goalies.

When you get star players, you keep them. Something this franchise often takes issue with.

 

[StonedZboril]

Lewis Gross is the problem here. He is a garbage agent and a greedy idiot. Swayman needs to fire him.

 

[DKH]

Lewis Gross is the problem here. He is a garbage agent and a greedy idiot. Swayman needs to fire him.

Gross caused Swayman irreversible damage in the court of public opinion

This is easily going 80 % against him

 

[TD Charlie]

Lewis Gross is the problem here. He is a garbage agent and a greedy idiot. Swayman needs to fire him.

He’s probably one of the best. Same as with Boras and the MLB, if my kid ends up a pro athlete, I want THAT guy repping him.

 

[UncleRico]

Lewis Gross is the problem here. He is a garbage agent and a greedy idiot. Swayman needs to fire him.

Quite the contrary. He’s an outstanding agent for players and quite often gets them paid almost exactly what they are looking for.

Fanbases only hate him because he’s really good at his job and fans know they aren’t getting a hometown discount when Gross is the agent.