Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[MarchysNoseKnows]

How often does a top 5-6 NHL goalie become available?
You work out a sign and trade deal , like the Bruins did with Lindholm, happens often.
The Flyers have not had a decent goalie since Bernie Parent and Pelle Lindbergh ( RIP)

Yeah that Hextall guy was awful.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

It’s clearly enough for the president of an organization to lie about in a press conference, which to me indicates there’s a much bigger issue festering below the surface on this deal.

You keep saying this as fact, why? what do you know that no-one else does.

 

[Bodit9]

Trade him to the Flyers for Konecny and a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
He moves right up to our second line.....mark him down for 30-35 goals.
Cap works for us this season and leaves us with a bit of room.

If there's a trade, I assume Bruins move him to the Western Conference.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

If Puckpedia is correct they currently sit with 7.8 in space with a full roster. If you waive Bussi to sign Sway that gives you 8.5 max.
But that problem with that is you never want to start at the max. You need at oeast 500k to 700k of wiggle room.
So someone else needs to go and be replaced with another player that leaves at least that much space.

Damned if I know what to do.

Run with 22 is the easiest option.

 

[goldenblack]

Guys WHO is gonna give Sway 10M? Really?

Such a pass from us.

Sign Linus in July.

 

[analyser]

The amount of people in here who keep mentioning John Gibson as a target is insane. Sorry he's still rated an 87 overall, but you need to turn off NHL 24 (or 25 if you preordered) because he hasn't been good since 2018. Literally. He's not good and hasn't been for 5 years.

And he's 6 years older than Swayman.

And he's got three years left at 6+.

And he just had an appendectomy and is week to week.

Purge him from your mind.

Put Swayman on a team like the Anaheim Ducks the last few seasons and his numbers will change drastically.

Gibson is older but he would still be capable with a decent team in front of him.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Who the F is Frank Seravalli and how would he know this,

Swayman is a greedy prick and his agent is a well known scum bag so lets take their side as truth lololol

Swayman said he wanted to set the goalie market months ago, Hopefully he's playing somewhere else this season not sure how he can survive this is Boston.

He will be fine if he stays in Boston. Def not as soft as the fans all annoyed that he wants to be paid what he feels his worth is

 

[Gee Wally]

Run with 22 is the easiest option.

Too razor thin IMO. But thats me.

 

[Bodit9]

Swayman would be the missing piece

Had they not botched Cutter Gauthier lot of possibilities

Sweeney is pretty chill he let Cam I’m sure by design say all the mean stuff - likely he and Gross get a deal 8/66 or something

Best scenario from the nose-bleeds is the Bruins are better with Swayman and he’s better here

Can’t we all just get along ?

If not
Chicago is loaded with prospects lol

You like Mrazek or Broissoit more?

 

[Beyonder]

The Flyers just signed Konecny to a big extension ($70M/8 years) and he's the right age to lead a rebuilding team. I'd love to have him but he's not going anywhere.

 

[22Brad Park]

I was GM it would be resolved.The offer is 8× 8 or sit out the season.Heck 7.75 was my initial thought so it's overpayment

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

He will be fine if he stays in Boston. Def not as soft as the fans all annoyed that he wants to be paid what he feels his worth is

Calling fans soft because they don't agree with money is not a good look. Might want to calm down just a little.

You may be starting to show you are a little one sided on the matter.

 

[NeelyDan]

But it’s not. Neely said they gave Swayman an 8x8 offer but they didn’t. No semantics, just reality.

Lonnie you don’t know this tho

 

[Scotto74]

Guys WHO is gonna give Sway 10M? Really?

Such a pass from us.

Sign Linus in July.

not just who is going to give Sway $10M. but who is going to give Sway $10M and trade some assets to get him before overpaying for him?

Maybe an expansion type team or a team with a ton of cap space that has a hard time getting free agents, a team in a total rebuild? will be interesting how good Sway's numbers would look on a team like Buffalo where Ullmark was before coming to Boston and seeing his numbers go way up.

 

[LSCII]

Lonnie you don’t know this tho

So Cam didn’t say that in his presser? In front of everyone? We gave him 64 million reasons? That doesn’t ring a bell? Lol

 

[Ace0813]

So Cam didn’t say that in his presser? In front of everyone?

What's the proof that the Bs didn't offer 8x8?

 

[Scotto74]

Calling fans soft because they don't agree with money is not a good look. Might want to calm down just a little.

You may be starting to show you are a little one sided on the matter.

the user name already pretty much says what side they are going to take in this.

if there was no cap to worry about then fine pay him what he FEEL's he is worth but there is a cap and I want a competing team this year and in the future. If he had a Vezina trophy, a few more years history to look at and beat a few more teams in the playoffs then sure he is worth the cap hit because you know what your getting right now you don't.

and he has one playoff win against the Leafs. not even sure that is worthy of going on a resume. The Leafs are a guaranteed playoff win pretty much every year. the have made it to the second round once in the last what 19 years.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

So Cam didn’t say that in his presser? In front of everyone? We gave him 64 million reasons? That doesn’t ring a bell? Lol

The question is how do you know he was lying about that number?

 

[Number8]

So a few things.

Sounds like Neely wasn't truthful (shocker)
Sounds like Gross was overdramatic (shocker)
Sounds like the 6.5 and 9.5 may have both been very close to starting offers
Sounds like the B's are making more of an effort to reach a deal
Sounds like the B's view him close to Saros and a notch below Hellebuyck
Sounds like Swayman views himself closer to Vaz and Bob
Sounds like it may drag out close to the deadline
Sounds like a trade has a better chance of happening with each passing week
Sounds like Neely made a huge mistake today and things may be irrepairable

There's at least some of this that sounds like speculative bullshit -- or at the very least a massive blind belief in whatever one side says and disbelief in what the other side says.

I've been with you in supporting Swayman in general. However, you are jumping the shark of late.

You really need to chill out.

8x8 is an excellent offer for a guy like Swayman. Real money and security that is appropriate for a guy with his talent, performance to date, and abilities.

If he takes it? All good. If not? Well, you may have to adjust your viewpoint.

 

[DKH]

The way to resolve this assuming Swayman wants to be a Bruins is meet somewhere between Servelli rumored amount if true and have the agent say Swayman stepped in and basically pushed for this

I’m the agent I could care less if I looked bad after over, but want Swayman looking like he stepped in and wants to be a Bruins - and Neely can be the mean emotional guy, and Sweeney looks like the calm guy who says all the right things

Then have Coach Marchand say he’s glad to have him back and tease him good naturedly

 

[UncleRico]

What's the proof that the Bs didn't offer 8x8?

There is zero proof they did or didnt offer it.

 

[Wilhelm Scream]

Put Swayman on a team like the Anaheim Ducks the last few seasons and his numbers will change drastically.

Gibson is older but he would still be capable with a decent team in front of him.

Possibly true, but I think we can and should and would aim higher. I think Swayman is actively valuable. He is worth more than a reclamation project or a huge gamble.

If Gibson is part of a deal that gets us one of their top prospects and picks, then you do it, sure... but pleeeeeeaaaaaaase dont make him the big piece.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Calling fans soft because they don't agree with money is not a good look. Might want to calm down just a little.

You may be starting to show you are a little one sided on the matter.

I think it’s odd that we are all working people more than likely and people are so upset that a guy is trying to get what he feels he deserves. Weird is all. Doubt we would like people telling us to take less or just sign

 

[Absurdity]

There is zero proof they did or didnt offer it.

Except Neely putting his credibility, reputation, and job on the line if he lied. Which is more likely?

Even if Swayman signs with the Bruins, I doubt he lasts more than 1 season here.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

There's at least some of this that sounds like speculative bullshit -- or at the very least a massive blind belief in whatever one side says and disbelief in what the other side says.

I've been with you in supporting Swayman in general. However, you are jumping the shark of late.

You really need to chill out.

8x8 is an excellent offer for a guy like Swayman. Real money and security that is appropriate for a guy with his talent, performance to date, and abilities.

If he takes it? All good. If not? Well, you may have to adjust your viewpoint.

Agreed on the offer. 8.5 is fair if that what he wants. No reason to split hairs