Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -V - all still silent

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So you're completely comfortable with the idea of a long-term, sizable deal without proof he can handle it? You really can't understand the opposing point of view at all?

There really is no other side on a two year deal. It’s one year or four. And one year would be a nuclear issue.

 

[TD Charlie]

Yeah, actually - I think I’m a sign long term or trade guy

The classic "up or out" strategy. Fine by me.

Do I wish he would play for 6mil? Absolutely. Do I wish Pastrnak made 9 instead of whatever stupid number he's at, of course. Gotta decide who's worth investing in and just f***ing dive in I suppose.

 

[Smitty93]

He's going to be used as a comparable no matter what. "not ruining" the goalie market means not doing anything that would bring it down. Obviously he'd like to bring it up, but he clearly refuses to do anything that would allow other teams to say "look Swayman took this so you can't ask for that much."

That's beyond fair IMO if you care about your fellow union members.

The absolute funniest part of this is the fact that a certain beloved Bruin was used just in this manner so management could justify underpaying star players.

 

[TD Charlie]

The absolute funniest part of this is the fact that a certain beloved Bruin was used just in this manner so management could justify underpaying star players.

While overpaying the jags.

 

[jgatie]

I hope DS and company do not get talked into giving JS a NMC with no possiblity of trading him.
I want the flexibility to move him if the price is right down the road.
A 16 team trade list would work for me.

No trade/move clauses are only for UFA's. Swayman is an RFA.

 

[Pia8988]

No trade/move clauses are only for UFA's. Swayman is an RFA.

This only applies to RFA years, you can absolutely negotiate a NTC/NMC as an RFA, it just won't be for every year

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

No trade/move clauses are only for UFA's. Swayman is an RFA.

Faber just got NMC and a 15 team no trade for his last 3 years (when he was eligible to have one).

Seider got a 10 team NTC for his final 3 years.

Raymond got a 10 team NTC for his last 4 years.

Byfield got a 10 team in the last year of his five year deal.

Etc

 

[UConn126]

Ducks arent going to pay swayman.

Also Gibson is 31. Should have just kept Ullmark for cheaper at that point.

The hindsight is 20/20 here. I was on board with the Ullmark trade at the time, but now that Swayman has decided he's only playing if he gets a ridiculous contract I think most of us would like that trade back. What's done is done though and we have to figure out how to move forward with what we have. I think Gibson is a solid option if a considerable asset comes with him and if the Ducks are willing to pay Swayman.

 

[Hookslide]

I hope DS and company do not get talked into giving JS a NMC with no possiblity of trading him.
I want the flexibility to move him if the price is right down the road.
A 16 team trade list would work for me.

I think that is an excellent point, I would think this kid and his agent should not be given any edge, they will use it to the fullest extent as possible. Bottom line a trade is the only way out, they will never be reconciliation between either party.

 

[TD Charlie]

I think that is an excellent point, I would think this kid and his agent should not be given any edge, they will use it to the fullest extent as possible. Bottom line a trade is the only way out, they will never be reconciliation between either party.

You could replace “this kid and his agent” with “Don Sweeney” and it reads the exact same way.

What good is a negotiation without using whatever you have at your disposal as an edge?

 

[Hookslide]

Ducks arent going to pay swayman.

Also Gibson is 31. Should have just kept Ullmark for cheaper at that point.

Ullmark is cheaper for only this year, and then he will be looking for a raise, they are also the same age.

 

[Boston Bruno]

Ask Tuukka to come back for a spell.
He retired young.

 

[goldenblack]

RFA holdouts are generally pretty pretty dumb. You have way less leverage than you think you do.

 

[shelbysdad]

A contract based on speculation is just that....you hope he will continue to get better and it's a good deal

A lot like people do when investing in the stock market

 

[TD Charlie]

RFA holdouts are generally pretty pretty dumb. You have way less leverage than you think you do.

Don Sweeney is blackballing Swayman and preventing him from playing in the NHL