Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -V - all still silent

[Blowfish]

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Think we would all benefit from lowering the temperature around this topic and player, and one way I believe we can make these threads go a lot smoother would be for people to STOP f***ING LYING about Swayman saying he wants to set the goalie market.

As noted A MILLION f***ING TIMES he did not say that or anything close to that. f***.

Good job lowering the temperature

 

[RiverbottomChuck]

One thing is for sure, regardless of what happens with Sway the Bruins need to have a no Gross policy going forward. That guy is a disruptor and serves no purpose other than whispering outlandish contracts to his clients. This is has been demonstrated multiple times with multiple clubs by him at this point and if I'm Sweeney I get Sway signed and start doing whatever he can to make sure they no longer work with him or players he reps. He's toxic and i wouldn't be surprised if he had secret motives to stick it to GM's as a primary concern and the career of his clients came second.

 

[TD Charlie]

Think we would all benefit from lowering the temperature around this topic and player, and one way I believe we can make these threads go a lot smoother would be for people to STOP f***ING LYING about Swayman saying he wants to set the goalie market.

As noted A MILLION f***ING TIMES he did not say that or anything close to that. f***.

He’s holding out so he can set the market

Sorry. I had to

 

[Saxon Eric]

Think we would all benefit from lowering the temperature around this topic and player, and one way I believe we can make these threads go a lot smoother would be for people to STOP f***ING LYING about Swayman saying he wants to set the goalie market.

As noted A MILLION f***ING TIMES he did not say that or anything close to that. f***.

I can't ruin the goalie market was the quote

 

[Saxon Eric]

18:10 he talks about the contract process

 

[Hookslide]

Bruins only have X amount of cap space. If they cant fit him, they need to go with the Gs they already have. Unless you think they should dump someone to give him extra money?

No one is denying that Swayman and his agent should go after and get what they can, but remember that someone in that Lockeroom, could be a victim of his signing and probably will be a good and important player. Sweeney screwed this up from the get-go, but now he is hopefully trying to correct his mistake by not caving in to these demands. The other point I, would like to make many fans were on the Sway train, but he is losing his support quickly because of comments and demands, I also don't think that his agent is a face that is helping his cause. Sweeney is not the most popular face in Boston, might I might say he is gaining in support, even though Boston fans might not like some of Sweeneys decisions in the past they are not stupid and know Sways demands are not realistic.

 

[Hookslide]

Imagine if it came out that Swayman deliberately waited until the day before the season starts to sign because he was mad they traded his buddy Ullmark away and it had nothing to do with money.

Well the business student would have failed his class if he was to do that, one thing anyone in business will tell you is that you want the best product that you can have and if he misses camp,his value is degraded.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Meh, didn't stop Ohtani or James from playing in California. It's high tax also.

Perhaps the California teams had to offer Ohtani & James more than the teams they were competing with.

I’m not suggesting it’s an issue, but it has been mentioned in negotiations here in Boston. Bill Belichick recently confirmed this.

 

[Hookslide]

Is anyone here taking into account the Massachusetts millionaires tax and it’s potential impact on this deal?

If that is the reason why he wants more money because of the taxes you might have a legit point, but I suggest that stop blaming Sweeney, but start pointing the finger at the politicians that put these taxes in place and the voters who put them in office. I know now I will get reprimanded foe no politics, but it should not be considered a political post as much as a way of life in Massachusetts, and a true fact.

 

[NeelyDan]

I can't ruin the goalie market was the quote

Is “not ruining” not somewhat synonymous with setting? I admit there’s a gap between those two notions and I’m asking the question honestly.

 

[TD Charlie]

Is “not ruining” not somewhat synonymous with setting? I admit there’s a gap between those two notions and I’m asking the question honestly.

It's vastly different to me.

Not ruining, as in just wanting to fall in line with peers.

Setting the market would be more of a "hey all my peers make far too little...I want a few mil more than all of them so when they negotiate the next deal they use my contract specifically to get more money."

 

[Oates2Neely]

If that is the reason why he wants more money because of the taxes you might have a legit point, but I suggest that stop blaming Sweeney, but start pointing the finger at the politicians that put these taxes in place and the voters who put them in office. I know now I will get reprimanded foe no politics, but it should not be considered a political post as much as a way of life in Massachusetts, and a true fact.

If I were a hockey player it’d be a consideration in my negotiation.

In the end I’m hopeful they come to terms. He’s a likable kid with talent.

 

[goldenblack]

Think we would all benefit from lowering the temperature around this topic and player, and one way I believe we can make these threads go a lot smoother would be for people to STOP f***ING LYING about Swayman saying he wants to set the goalie market.

As noted A MILLION f***ING TIMES he did not say that or anything close to that. f***.

He's officially played 132 regular season NHL games. If getting paid anywhere in the 7-10M range isn't effectively setting the market, what is? Imagine what you'd then have to pay a proven elite goalie? He doesn't need to say anything. He's doing it. The actions speak much louder.

 

[Hookslide]

If I were a hockey player it’d be a consideration in my negotiation.

In the end I’m hopeful they come to terms. He’s a likable kid with talent.

I agree with you, he is likeable and talented kid, but I must add he is damaging that look.

 

[lopey]

18:10 he talks about the contract process

Wow get over the arbitration process. Every player that goes to arbitration has to hear this. Really seems to be stuck on that.

 

[Kate08]

He's officially played 132 regular season NHL games. If getting paid anywhere in the 7-10M range isn't effectively setting the market, what is? Imagine what you'd then have to pay a proven elite goalie? He doesn't need to say anything. He's doing it. The actions speak much louder.

This is my issue.

We have no idea how he/his body will respond to a #1 load. We have no idea what, if any, effect trading ullmark will have on him mentally. We have no idea how he will handle the mental load and responsibility of being a #1.

Its hard to want to affect the market when you’re looking to affect it for guys who are in a different situation than you, having been proven effective as The Guy.

I love swayman, want him here long term, and don’t begrudge him trying to get his, but logically it’s a tough-ish pill to swallow. Be the #1 for a year or two and then get paid.

 

[Ladyfan]

I love swayman, want him here long term, and don’t begrudge him trying to get his, but logically it’s a tough-ish pill to swallow. Be the #1 for a year or two and then get paid.

THIS^ I love the kid too but....

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I can't ruin the goalie market was the quote

yup, and the Bruins are not going to let him do that lol.

He has balls I will give him that.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Wow get over the arbitration process. Every player that goes to arbitration has to hear this. Really seems to be stuck on that.

Doesn't sound like a guy you hang your hat on in tough situations is it. boo hoo they they said negative things about me.

 

[Saxon Eric]

Is “not ruining” not somewhat synonymous with setting? I admit there’s a gap between those two notions and I’m asking the question honestly.

Fair value vs home town discount is the way I want to view it lol

 

[Saxon Eric]

Doesn't sound like a guy you hang your hat on in tough situations is it. boo hoo they they said negative things about me.

Same, that quote perplexed me as it was him and his agent that chose that route

 

[TD Charlie]

yup, and the Bruins are not going to let him do that lol.

He has balls I will give him that.

What you're saying is the Bruins are going to force him into ruining the goalie market.

AKA, resetting the market

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

What you're saying is the Bruins are going to force him into ruining the goalie market.

AKA, resetting the market

Not sure how you interpided that lol

He's not the goalie at this point in his career to be setting anything other than proven he is a number one goalie.

He has his priorities backwards and frankly its concerning

 

[wintersej]

He probably feels that goalies are not making enough compared to those other positions, it's not hard to think of a winger that has a higher cap hit than any goalie without winning any awards.

Or how is it possible that only 3 goalies make more than Darnell Nurse?

Yeah this is the rub. The whole make him the 5th highest paid argument goalie goes out the window if his agent has sold him that goalies are underpaid. And I don’t think the Bruins organization is going to be a trend setter here.