Prospect Info: Jeremie Poirier, D, 72nd Overall

[Volica]

Reminded that Chabot was the guy Calgary wanted in 2015.

Did they strike gold here? Time will tell, but these are good signs.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Reminded that Chabot was the guy Calgary wanted in 2015.

Did they strike gold here? Time will tell, but these are good signs.

Really interested in how his next couple seasons go as a pro

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Reminded that Chabot was the guy Calgary wanted in 2015.

Did they strike gold here? Time will tell, but these are good signs.

Skating for D is pretty essential IMO. Forward is more about IQ and execution more than ever. But D need wheels. He’s a project but he just seems to be able to translate his game to a higher level because he’s got the boots.

I think he’s going to be an NHLer in 3 years or so.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

 

[Lunatik]

Good news

 

[Bounces R Way]

Hope he can get up to speed quickly when he's back and get a callup later in the season(if/when Hanifin is traded). Love his athleticism. His defense still isn't great but it has improved a lot since draft day.

The main thing I thought still needed some work was his puck management. I like a player willing to make a move to beat a guy, but it can't be the option every time and it needs to be weighted risk.

 

[joescores]

What was his exact injury? A cut and out from October and just started to skate?

 

[Rubi]

What was his exact injury? A cut and out from October and just started to skate?

Jeremie Poirier suffered a skate laceration of his arm in the game in Abbotsford on October 21st.

Poirier required surgery to repair the laceration. I have to imagine it was a pretty deep cut if its taken 3 months to heal.

 

[Lunatik]

Jeremie Poirier suffered a skate laceration of his arm in the game in Abbotsford on October 21st.

Poirier required surgery to repair the laceration. I have to imagine it was a pretty deep cut if its taken 3 months to heal.

Probably not too comparable, but after my carpel tunnel surgery, it was weird to even hold a pen for like 6 months. So it's not just the cut that needs to heal it's all the nerves, muscles, and such that take time.

 

[Khrox]

So it's not just the cut that needs to heal it's all the nerves, muscles, and such that take time.

That right there is probably why. If it's his arms, it 100% cut through muscle, and depending on how large and how deep the cut is, it could definitely increase that time a fair bit. Hockey players do use their arms a LOT so if it's not healed properly, it would really impact his ability to play

 

[JPeeper]

At least it being his arm he'd still be able to do cardio (like on a bike, no need to skae) to keep that up. Hopefully he gets back with the Wranglers soon, he would probably already be at least part time on this team if he didn't get injured and we wouldn't have to keep rotating bums like Oesterle in regularly.

 

[joescores]

At least it being his arm he'd still be able to do cardio (like on a bike, no need to skae) to keep that up. Hopefully he gets back with the Wranglers soon, he would probably already be at least part time on this team if he didn't get injured and we wouldn't have to keep rotating bums like Oesterle in regularly.

Good point.

 

[Khrox]

Cardio on a bike vs cardio jogging vs cardio skating still takes very different strains on your body. It'll definitely help, but it really hits differently between them. But 100% on the fact that bike cardio is definitely better than no cardio and has likely given him a bit of a head start on the recovery process.

 

[Lunatik]

‘Get My Swagger Back’ - Calgary Wranglers

BRYAN WILSON – 02.29.2024 Jeremie Poirier was a welcome sight […]

calgarywranglers.com

Jeremie Poirier was a welcome sight at Wranglers’ practice this week.

The 21-year-old was on fire to start the season with seven points (1g,6a) in four games, but he suffered a forearm laceration against the Abbotsford Canucks on Oct. 21 that has kept him out of the lineup ever since.

It’s been a long road to recovery for the Flames’ 2020 third-round selection (72nd overall) and Poirier was excited to finally rejoin the group on the ice this week.

“Feels good,” he said. “It’s been a challenging year physically and mentally, obviously, just being away from the game for so long.

“It’s cool to be around the guys and just come to practice every day and have some fun and enjoy it.

“Going to take it pretty easy, ease back into it, get my swagger back a little bit, have some fun and enjoy being around the guys.”
Poirier finished second in rookie defenceman scoring last season with 41 points (9g,31a) in 69 games and has the distinction of scoring the first goal in Wranglers’ franchise history on Oct.16, 2022.

He will be an important piece on an already depleted Wranglers’ blueline but for now (with no confirmed timeline for his return to game action) Poirier is just focused on easing his way back into the mix.

Oh, he intends to enjoy himself while he’s out there, too.

“I’m feeling good, I haven’t skated with people in a long time, so for me to get back its super fun first of all,” he explained.

“Just to go out there and have some fun, don’t put too much pressure on myself, just ease back into it, get the timing back and get used to the systems … I think it’s going pretty well and excited to get back with the guys.”

 

[Lunatik]

Poirier is back! Just had his first shift since October

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Have you heard how much longer Solo's out?

 

[Lunatik]

Have you heard how much longer Solo's out?

No, and with everything going on in my life I hadn't seen a game in February and didn't realize he was out until Friday

 

[Lunatik]

@Darth Vladar
so we stop derailing the GDT

+/- is far from a great stat, but when comparing teammates it has a small amount of merit and being last among all blueliners on teh team is telling.

Also, considering his style of game, being 2nd among Dmen in PIM is not a good thing either, especially when Aspirot the only guy with more has 2 fighting majors in his PIMs. Look up Poirier's penalties and it speaks to him being overwhelmed defensively... of his 18 minors, 11 are penalties quite often associated with this (holding, interference, hooking), and 3 more are slashing, which can also be a symptom of this.

 

[Darth Vladar]

@Darth Vladar
so we stop derailing the GDT

+/- is far from a great stat, but when comparing teammates it has a small amount of merit and being last among all blueliners on teh team is telling.

Also, considering his style of game, being 2nd among Dmen in PIM is not a good thing either, especially when Aspirot the only guy with more has 2 fighting majors in his PIMs. Look up Poirier's penalties and it speaks to him being overwhelmed defensively... of his 18 minors, 11 are penalties quite often associated with this (holding, interference, hooking), and 3 more are slashing, which can also be a symptom of this.

Good call. Yeah, I edited one of my comments in the GDT to mention that I actually had an AHLtv subscription last season, which so happened to be the season Poi was injured for most of, so I got cheated out of being able to see very much of him, and I can count the number of Wranglers games I’ve seen this season on one hand.

 

[Lunatik]

Good call. Yeah, I edited one of my comments in the GDT to mention that I actually had an AHLtv subscription last season, which so happened to be the season Poi was injured for most of, so I got cheated out of being able to see very much of him, and I can count the number of Wranglers games I’ve seen this season on one hand.

Just for clarity, when I say he is utter shit defensively, I am speaking of his play to date. I am under no illusions that players can't improve (especially defensively, I think that can constantly improve long after other skills max out), it just feels less likely when any improvement over 3 seasons has been minimal.

 

[Bounces R Way]

I actually think he's improved quite a bit defensively since starting his pro career. He competes a lot harder than he did in Junior. Rush defense and gap control are both much better, although he still goes for a wander leaving the front of his net in his own zone too often. His quick feet and anticipation can break up a cycle. It's not NHL quality but I think there is plenty of defenders on active rosters in this league that aren't putting out NHL quality D every night.

It's Poirier's puck management that I think holds him back. He's such a good skater with great hands that I think he's learned hockey with the assumption that he can beat an entire fwd line with his legs. That's just not true anymore at this level of competition. Sometimes the easy safer play is the correct one and Jeremie needs to learn to choose that one more often both when he has the puck and when he's choosing to pinch in the OZ.

 

[Lunatik]

I actually think he's improved quite a bit defensively since starting his pro career. He competes a lot harder than he did in Junior. Rush defense and gap control are both much better, although he still goes for a wander leaving the front of his net in his own zone too often. His quick feet and anticipation can break up a cycle. It's not NHL quality but I think there is plenty of defenders on active rosters in this league that aren't putting out NHL quality D every night.

It's Poirier's puck management that I think holds him back. He's such a good skater with great hands that I think he's learned hockey with the assumption that he can beat an entire fwd line with his legs. That's just not true anymore at this level of competition. Sometimes the easy safer play is the correct one and Jeremie needs to learn to choose that one more often both when he has the puck and when he's choosing to pinch in the OZ.

Fair enough, the wandering defensively is what always gets me. Someone needs to teach him about Occam's razor