Confirmed with Link: Jeff Jackson (McDavid's now former agent) named Oilers CEO of Hockey Ops

BudBundy

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Meh, LT is constantly beating the analytics drum and he's been pushing Holland out the door for years. Take with a grain of salt.

I really enjoy his writing, and most of his columns are solid, but as with anyone there are some inherent biases.
Is he biased or just applying knowledge gained from a lifetime of following the NHL draft and subsequent results. LT is very into analytics but if you read his book, you’d know he sees it as a tool only and that intangibles and the eye test still matter. The only time he digs his heels in, and I agree with him, is how foolish it is to draft offensively shy players out of junior as they very seldom pan out. Even defensive specialists at the NHL level have to have a minimum level of skill/talent to make it and they show it with numbers in junior.
 
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Did anyone really know that Jackson would be hired today?

Not sure anyone knows what the plan is anymore.

Personally I just hope for now Jackson focuses on bringing in some more talent on the scouting side of things.

Yeah I havent heard about it. I kind of like the anonymity though. Tells me that Oilers in general are getting better at running a tighter ship.
 

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Yeah I had never heard about it. I kind of like the anonymity though. Tells me that Oilers in general are getting better at running a tighter ship.
Especially considering guys like Coffey and McDavid were involved too.

Then you have the agency who obviously would've known before the announcement.

Also have to wonder when he talked to his clients about this move too. Kinda doubt they just woke up to the news that their agent is no longer an agent.

Could be the reason for the early morning release. Get it out before the rumors swirl maybe
 

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Is he biased or just applying knowledge gained from a lifetime of following the NHL draft and subsequent results. LT is very into analytics but if you read his book, you’d know he sees it as a tool only and that intangibles and the eye test still matter. The only time he digs his heels in, and I agree with him, is how foolish it is to draft offensively shy players out of junior as they very seldom pan out. Even defensive specialists at the NHL level have to have a minimum level of skill/talent to make it and they shown it with numbers in junior.
that does track with what Holland has said about analytics, although when Holland said it, it felt like he was putting down analytics a bit (hard to say)

Bottom line is that the Oilers player analytics have improved a ton in the last couple season, last season in particular. The Oilers were picked by analytics to win the cup this past year actually, and have been one of the most improved teams in this measure according to some news outlets.

I'm not an expert at interpretting analytics but if there was a choice between McLeod and Kostin, doesn't Mcleod have a sizeable edge on Kostin there, while Kostin has the surface appeal of physical play and goals (ie everything that analytics wants to look past)? I was comparing the two players using the hockey-reference corsi, fenwick, etc.
 

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Have to think this was done to keep McDavid happy and push the likelihood of resigning higher, whether Jackson is a great hockey mind is kinda besides the point, it's not like our front office are rocket scientists anyway and who even knows what Bob Burgers was even bringing to the table at this point. Hopefully it's an upgrade in that respect.

Kinda funny that Holland will have to report to him though. I can see it being a hedge too with McDavid taking a 8 year extension here, but having the reassurance that if the team isn't going the way he likes he can ask out and have it respectfully honored because I'm sure he trusts Jeff Jackson.
 
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So is he allowed to stay on as McD's agent?

Also seems like a cheap parlor trick by the org if this was a move to keep McD
This is what makes me a bit skeptical of the hire.

It's fairly unprecedented for an agent to get this job (I know somebody mentioned Burke but still....pretty rare) and it just so happens to be McDavid's agent when McDavid is a few years from free agency. The change is nice as long as Nicholson is out but I question the motive behind this hire, has a nepotistic (if this is a word) feel to it.
 

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This is what makes me a bit skeptical of the hire.

It's fairly unprecedented for an agent to get this job (I know somebody mentioned Burke but still....pretty rare) and it just so happens to be McDavid's agent when McDavid is a few years from free agency. The change is nice as long as Nicholson is out but I question the motive behind this hire, has a nepotistic (if this is a word) feel to it.
Who else is really a better hire?

Like truthfully who is out there that is available for this position that is hands down a better option?

This guy has 4 years experience as assistant GM, years experience as an agent, he's a lawyer etc...

It's not like their is a direct path to be followed when hiring this position.
 

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This is what makes me a bit skeptical of the hire.

It's fairly unprecedented for an agent to get this job (I know somebody mentioned Burke but still....pretty rare) and it just so happens to be McDavid's agent when McDavid is a few years from free agency. The change is nice as long as Nicholson is out but I question the motive behind this hire, has a nepotistic (if this is a word) feel to it.

Probably worth noting that Jackson was the Assistant GM for the Leafs and the GM of the Marlies way back in the 2000s for a handful of years.

Not a ton of experience, but he has been in a front office before.
 

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This is what makes me a bit skeptical of the hire.

It's fairly unprecedented for an agent to get this job (I know somebody mentioned Burke but still....pretty rare) and it just so happens to be McDavid's agent when McDavid is a few years from free agency. The change is nice as long as Nicholson is out but I question the motive behind this hire, has a nepotistic (if this is a word) feel to it.

Well Kent Hughes was an agent and he took over GM duties of Montreal. Not sure whether a CEO or GM is more prestigious but its similar (GM probably has more duties).

But hopefully Jackson is competent in his role (which he probably is) and its not solely just a McDavid hire (but if were being honest - Its a pretty damn important task for the Oilers to keep McDavid).
 
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The ken Holland transition period starts

It is all about keeping leon and mcdavid and katz knows it

Sends a strong signal to Leon too like ... they just hired McDavid's agent to run the team, probably a good sign that Connor is sticking around, so really who else in the league can offer you a Connor McDavid to play with again?
 

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This is what makes me a bit skeptical of the hire.

It's fairly unprecedented for an agent to get this job (I know somebody mentioned Burke but still....pretty rare) and it just so happens to be McDavid's agent when McDavid is a few years from free agency. The change is nice as long as Nicholson is out but I question the motive behind this hire, has a nepotistic (if this is a word) feel to it.
a lot of time, moves are made out of opportunity. For instance, a lot of the time when teams poach UFAs from each other, it is divisional rivals doing it. A lot of that is that those teams have been scouting those players for years. Also, often one trade between teams leads to more (ie Calgary and Florida), which would not be the objectively best trades to be made, but it comes from developing a GM to GM relationship

The Oilers have had the chance to deal with Jackson face to face a few times now, yes with McDavid but perhaps more importantly with Connor Brown just now. It could be that he just came of as super well prepared and professional, and maybe had lots of ideas concerning the Oilers even within that Brown negotiation.

I actually supported Katz hiring Nicholson for the same reason. Katz is just a businessman. There would be little chance he knew anyone in hockey, and could not even begin to hire anyone as he just didn't have the knowledge. So, of course he would have to start things off by leaning on Lowe, and Nicholson was great because it was an outside hire who had tons of connections and knew a lot of team and player information. Plus, he has hockey knowledge. Moving on from Nicholson wouldn't be easy. I'd imagine the next order of business for Jackson is for him to see how Holland operates and make a decision about whether or not to move on from him, and if Staios is truly a great choice to take over.
 

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Sends a strong signal to Leon too like ... they just hired McDavid's agent to run the team, probably a good sign that Connor is sticking around, so really who else in the league can offer you a Connor McDavid to play with again?
I just assumed now that McDavid and Matthews have the same agent they'd end up in Arizona together :laugh:
 

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Sends a strong signal to Leon too like ... they just hired McDavid's agent to run the team, probably a good sign that Connor is sticking around, so really who else in the league can offer you a Connor McDavid to play with again?
I agree 100%. Katz knows business and needs Mcdavid and Leon.

My guess is we will see a lot of first round picks moved out this year.

We are in win now mode.

f*** prospects and picks. We are here to win
 

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Who else is really a better hire?

Like truthfully who is out there that is available for this position that is hands down a better option?

This guy has 4 years experience as assistant GM, years experience as an agent, he's a lawyer etc...

It's not like their is a direct path to be followed when hiring this position.
I don't know offhand but him being McDavid's long time agent and him due for a new contract soon gives me pause about the true intention of the hire. Come on, you have to admit that it crossed your mind too especially considering the history of this owner.
 

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I agree 100%. Katz knows business and needs Mcdavid and Leon.

My guess is we will see a lot of first round picks moved out this year.

We are in win now mode.

f*** prospects and picks. We are here to win

One thing that crystalized this for me was Jefresh's re-drafts that he's been posting on twitter over the summer. In pretty much every case, even in strong draft years, the players that fall in the 20-30 range are bottom 6/bottom pair players and usually not great ones. And this is even with the benefit of hindsight that ranks players pretty much exactly where they should be.

There is pretty much zero reason to cling to late 1st rounders at this stage.
 
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