Value of: Jason Robertson to NJ

[roryjones]

If their goal is cap, they probably move March / Dumba / Lub/ outside shot at Seguin. I don’t think that’ll be the reason Robertson is dealt.

This is the thing being misunderstood in trade proposals. The goal with trading Robertson is getting assets back like the ones they gave up for Rantanen not cap space. The cap space is a bonus but the assets are the goal.

You are correct the cap space that is needed will come from Marchment and Dumba being moved. I doubt Seguin but would love to move him as well.

 

[Doublechin]

Nemec and Mercer might get the convo going..

 

[dj Mahoney]

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[lanceuppercut75]

I don’t see Dallas moving Robertson to add another 9+ mil defenseman with Harley coming up.

This. Nemec and a pricey half-decent forward on a 1 year deal makes sense IMO. Forward and their money expires as Harley gets his raise.

Palat + Nemec for Robertson with maybe one side adding something (probably Devils... take Dumba contract dump and add 4th piece?) would make great sense on a roster player hockey trade level with cap hits taken into consideration, BUT Palat is a 2 year deal not 1 year deal, which ruins the entire idea.

 

[JKG33]

Personally I think it is much MUCH more that Nick Robertson is traded to Dallas, then Jason Robertson is traded from Dallas.

Because trading Jason Robertson from Dallas makes no f***ing sense.

Nick Robertson is damn near waiver fodder at this point. Whatever team lands Jason could get Nick for basically nothing

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

I don’t see Dallas moving Robertson to add another 9+ mil defenseman with Harley coming up.

I agree, that's why I suggested Mancini + since hes cheap, has all the tools to be a top pairing guy and is already an upgrade on the right-side. Throw in a 1st that they can use to dump Seguin and Dumba and a good roster player in Garland who gets severely underrated and has shown he can produce like a top six when actually given top six minutes.
I'd toss in a 2nd as well.

Stars fans probably want more but until he does it again, he's a ppg winger (nothing wrong with that at all) not a 100 point winger, prone to defensive lapses who's going to want to get paid and might only be a year long rental. Tho I think we could get him to stay, with his Pinoy background and the fact there's a massive Filipino community here, he would be extremely popular and comfortable here.

 

[MNRube]

Clearly gave zero thought to what Dallas might actually be interested in. It seems plain as day that they’ll be looking for a quality top-4 RD as the centrepiece for Robertson.

It’s a decent offer. Casey is very good and NHL ready. Dallas has 3 LHD with solid defensive games to find a partner for him.

Mercer also a valuable young player. Not a throw in and helps Dallas replace the Fs they are poised to lose.

I agree with others that Nemec is who Dallas would and should want, but this is a respectable proposal

 

[TGWL]

Save some money for Hughes.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Nemec is needed in NJ, otherwise that’s the obvious fit here instead of Casey.

Mercer replicating his 50pt 25g season in Dallas for what 5ish mil is invaluable when they now Rantanen and three other 8m+ deals

If they hadn't re-signed Kova I'd agree he's needed, but he's expendable in the right deal.

 

[My3Sons]

Would Robertson be a fit in NJ? I can't see hm playing with Bratt and Jack Hughes and he doesn't strike me as the defensive player he'd need to be to play with Hischier. I"m not sure it's a stylistic fit even as talented as Robertson is.

 

[Ekiru]

If they hadn't re-signed Kova I'd agree he's needed, but he's expendable in the right deal.

Hes not because he’s our only RHD prospect who can play a two-way game at a higher level

Casey will not be running our PP ever and I dont see him being defensively responsible enough.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Would Robertson be a fit in NJ? I can't see hm playing with Bratt and Jack Hughes and he doesn't strike me as the defensive player he'd need to be to play with Hischier. I"m not sure it's a stylistic fit even as talented as Robertson is.

Why not? Toffoli was a good fit with Hughes, and I don't even like Toffoli that much. Robertson is much better player than Toffoli so...

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Hes not because he’s our only RHD prospect who can play a two-way game at a higher level

Casey will not be running our PP ever and I dont see him being defensively responsible enough.

I won't argue that Nemec being more needed than Casey in NJ. This doesn't change the fact that other teams will covet Nemec more as well.

 

[Ekiru]

I won't argue that Nemec being more needed than Casey in NJ. This doesn't change the fact that other teams will covet Nemec more as well.

And it also doesn’t change the fact that Nemec garners the Robertson’s and Mercer/Casey doesnt, even with my best attempts here in this thread

But NJ would be silly to move their 2nd overall. And one who hasn’t shown he can’t still be that, no matter how wonky of a year for him (that no one outside NJ properly understands)

Casey is more than a great prospect but Nemec is lock-down-the-right-side good, and I dont think more scoring replaces that value wise. Nemec is worth far more to NJ than others; especially with Quinn rumors, another LHD and PP guy ahead of Casey

 

[devsfan8]

Nemec has had a roller coaster relationship with the Devils fan base. For a while, many were on board at unloading him for a need up front.

Then he stepped up with big minutes and played defensively responsible and actually SHOT the puck in the playoffs and he changed people's mindsets. I'd rather hold onto him unless it's for a trade that cannot be refused

If the Devils are after Robertson, The best i can do is offer is Hamilton with 2 or 3 mill retained, Mercer, a 26 1st or 25 2nd and 4th.

 

[SnS]

Nemec has had a roller coaster relationship with the Devils fan base. For a while, many were on board at unloading him for a need up front.

Then he stepped up with big minutes and played defensively responsible and actually SHOT the puck in the playoffs and he changed people's mindsets. I'd rather hold onto him unless it's for a trade that cannot be refused

If the Devils are after Robertson, The best i can do is offer is Hamilton with 2 or 3 mill retained, Mercer, a 26 1st or 25 2nd and 4th.

I imagine Dallas says thanks but no thanks.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Casey > Nemec imo anyway.

 

[edevils]

Isn't Robertson on the softer side? NJ doesn't need more players like him.

 

[Smitty426]

Nemec has had a roller coaster relationship with the Devils fan base. For a while, many were on board at unloading him for a need up front.

Then he stepped up with big minutes and played defensively responsible and actually SHOT the puck in the playoffs and he changed people's mindsets. I'd rather hold onto him unless it's for a trade that cannot be refused

If the Devils are after Robertson, The best i can do is offer is Hamilton with 2 or 3 mill retained, Mercer, a 26 1st or 25 2nd and 4th.

I think the rollercoster was with Green and Fitz moreso than us fans. Kid stepped in and played over his head year one, than hit a wall. Got hurt in the summer and lost his stop to a surprisingly good showing by Kova.

 

[My3Sons]

Would Robertson be a fit in NJ? I can't see hm playing with Bratt and Jack Hughes and he doesn't strike me as the defensive player he'd need to be to play with Hischier. I"m not sure it's a stylistic fit even as talented as Robertson is.

Why not? Toffoli was a good fit with Hughes, and I don't even like Toffoli that much. Robertson is much better player than Toffoli so...

True, chemistry can be a funny thing. But Robertson is so slow that I perceive he'd be exiting the defensive zone when Jack and Bratt are making a play at the opposition's net. I agree he's an excellent player.

 

[MNRube]

Would Robertson be a fit in NJ? I can't see hm playing with Bratt and Jack Hughes and he doesn't strike me as the defensive player he'd need to be to play with Hischier. I"m not sure it's a stylistic fit even as talented as Robertson is.

True, chemistry can be a funny thing. But Robertson is so slow that I perceive he'd be exiting the defensive zone when Jack and Bratt are making a play at the opposition's net. I agree he's an excellent player.

He’d be lethal as the trail guy with Bratt & Hughes. But that line may be too light to get the puck back if they lose it.

 

[account deactivated]

Isn't Robertson on the softer side? NJ doesn't need more players like him.

Nah, he just doesn't focus on physicality as much because he's too damn slow to catch anyone, but he's a big boy.

 

[Baksfamous112]

This is a lot of value for Dallas. Great offer.

I think they would be interested in this or Nemec + Mercer straight up

 

[edevils]

Nah, he just doesn't focus on physicality as much because he's too damn slow to catch anyone, but he's a big boy.

NJ doesn't want slow players. They want to get faster.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

NJ doesn't want slow players. They want to get faster.

I agree with your statement, that the Devils want to get faster. I also think that elite players are exception to the rule, and Robertson is an elite player, and there aren't a lot of elite players for sale.