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Value of: James Hagens to the Islanders

ALEXIVICH CHULKATURI

ALEXIVICH CHULKATURI

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New York Islanders 2025 First Round Pick
New York Islanders 2026 First Round Pick
Colorado Avalanche 2026 First Round Pick
Calum Ritchie
Anthony Duclair

Next Year Islanders Forwards 2025-2026
Cole Eiserman-Bo Horvat-James Hagens
Maxim Tsyplakov-Mathew Barzal-Simon Holmstrom
Anders Lee-JG Pageau-Kyle Palmieri
Pierre Engvall-Casey Cizikas-Marc Gatcomb

Whatever it takes for it most get done.
 
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Ledge And Dairy said:
You say that like it is anywhere close to landing you a McDavid caliber player with 9 years of control.
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No I am saying it’s an extreme overpay. Hagens is a very good, arguably an elite prospect, but he is nowhere in the realm of being worth what the offer was. At most I’d give up Colorados 2026 first and the isles 1st for Hagens. Even that is pushing it for the isles. The isles have so many holes all over their roster. Moving multiple picks for one player doesn’t make a ton of sense right now.
 
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WangMustGo said:
No I am saying it’s an extreme overpay. Hagens is a very good, arguably an elite prospect, but he is nowhere in the realm of being worth what the offer was. At most I’d give up Colorados 2026 first and the isles 1st for Hagens. Even that is pushing it for the isles. The isles have so many holes all over their roster. Moving multiple picks for one player doesn’t make a ton of sense right now.
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Yeah and there is no way that would be enough to move up to that pick. If that's all it cost to move up to 2nd or 3rd OA the pick would be traded every other year. Maybe you aren't high on Hagens specifically but teams don't trade down from that high for a couple mid 1sts ever. Maybe you are right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Islanders with where they are at but try looking at it from like Nashville's perspective. They desperately need a young star and trading that pick for a few inferior scratch tickets would be ridiculous.
 
Ledge And Dairy said:
Yeah and there is no way that would be enough to move up to that pick. If that's all it cost to move up to 2nd or 3rd OA the pick would be traded every other year. Maybe you aren't high on Hagens specifically but teams don't trade down from that high for a couple mid 1sts ever. Maybe you are right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Islanders with where they are at but try looking at it from like Nashville's perspective. They desperately need a young star and trading that pick for a few inferior scratch tickets would be ridiculous.
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The Isles picks will probably be worth a little more than that.

If say Boston is picking 4th and they don't like Hagens, and the next guys on their list are like O'Brien, McQueen, and Jackson Smith, then trading down to 10th and picking up 2 2026 1sts and Calum Ritchie is a really good haul. Especially since the 2026 Isles pick has a good chance of being top ten.
 
Ledge And Dairy said:
Yeah and there is no way that would be enough to move up to that pick. If that's all it cost to move up to 2nd or 3rd OA the pick would be traded every other year. Maybe you aren't high on Hagens specifically but teams don't trade down from that high for a couple mid 1sts ever. Maybe you are right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Islanders with where they are at but try looking at it from like Nashville's perspective. They desperately need a young star and trading that pick for a few inferior scratch tickets would be ridiculous.
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I don’t care about Nashvilles perspective of it. It doesn’t make sense to give up more from the islanders. I never said another team would be willing to make that trade. The islanders simply don’t have the farm system/picks to give up more.
 
majormajor said:
if say Boston is picking 4th and they don't like Hagens, and the next guys on their list are like O'Brien, McQueen, and Jackson Smith, then trading down to 10th and picking up 2 2026 1sts and Calum Ritchie is a really good haul.
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Moving down six spots and getting three additional first rounders is a great haul? You don’t say?

Almost like they would never do that
 
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majormajor said:
The Isles picks will probably be worth a little more than that.

If say Boston is picking 4th and they don't like Hagens, and the next guys on their list are like O'Brien, McQueen, and Jackson Smith, then trading down to 10th and picking up 2 2026 1sts and Calum Ritchie is a really good haul. Especially since the 2026 Isles pick has a good chance of being top ten.
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But none of that scenario is true.
 
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Everything in the offer is going to Gary Bettman at the draft. The players in the offer, and the players taken with the picks will be employed by Bettman under personal services contracts. Bettman will be making the picks at the podium himself at the drafts to announce who he’s taking with them. Hagens will be removed from the draft and added directly to the Islanders.

Honestly, this might just get it done OP. Good proposal.
 
As a Seattle fan if we had the pick to draft Hagens in the top 5 I wouldn't do that as a SEA fan.

3 late 1sts and two of them in a relatively weak draft...I don't particularly think Ritchie is much of a game changer either so I wouldn't do this.

Most teams I don't think would do this because elite talent is always better than having 5 decent guys in the pipeline. Seattle especially is seeing this right now. Hagens may not be as strong as other top 5 picks (though IMO he is underrated) but I think he's a lot better than like 20, 28, 20, Ritchie.
 
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