Jake Allen is Leading the League in GAA...

[njdevils1982]

Can they name them the Utah Coyotes?

For arguments sake, lets say there is a bakery in Edmonton called Joe's Bakery they're struggling to make ends meet so you buy all their equipment and their staff but not the Joe's Bakery name. You then move them all to Calgary. When you open up are you Joe's Bakery? Or are you a different bakery?

Utah has no rights to the Coyote name or likeness, with every other relocation that hasn't been the case. You won't see any throwback nights wearing Coyote jerseys like you do with the Hurricanes wearing the Whalers uniforms. Or the Devils making 3rd jerseys using the Colorado Rockies colors.

except they did make them and and they were awful.

New Jersey Devils 2022-23 Reverse Retro

 

[Prairie Habs]

That isn't even remotely the same as the Utah/Arizona situation. I honestly can't believe you think this post proves anything other than your inability to understand even basic logic.

Colorado to New Jersey = same franchise
Minnesota to Dallas = same franchise
Quebec to Colorado = same franchise
Winnipeg to Phoenix = same franchise
Hartford to Carolina = same franchise
Atlanta to Winnipeg = same franchise

Arizona to Utah = OMG how could anyone think this is the same franchise!!!?!

 

[tmg]

It’s strange that notJoe’s Bakery in Calgary was insistent on inheriting and honouring all the existing contracts Joe’s Bakery in Edmonton had, but so they did. They must be losing a fortune delivering my daily muffin to me in Edmonton, but a contract’s a contract and they chose to keep it intact.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

except they did make them and and they were awful.

New Jersey Devils 2022-23 Reverse Retro

You've misunderstood what I'm saying, I was referencing those jerseys in my post and the fact that NJ is allowed to do that and that Utah can't do stuff like that.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Colorado to New Jersey = same franchise
Minnesota to Dallas = same franchise
Quebec to Colorado = same franchise
Winnipeg to Phoenix = same franchise
Hartford to Carolina = same franchise
Atlanta to Winnipeg = same franchise

Arizona to Utah = OMG how could anyone think this is the same franchise!!!?!

Colorado to New Jersey = same franchise and history
Minnesota to Dallas = same franchise and history
Quebec to Colorado = same franchise and history
Winnipeg to Phoenix = same franchise and history
Hartford to Carolina = same franchise and history
Atlanta to Winnipeg = same franchise and history

Arizona to Utah = same players, different histories.

Every single team on the left side can use their former teams names, colors or put banners in the rafters in reference to the old team. They can do this because they also own the rights to their history and likeness.

Utah cannot use their former teams names, colors or put banners in the rafters in reference to the old team. They can't do this because the don't own the rights to their history or likeness.

Since they didn't buy the history, you won't find a Shane Doan #19 banner in the rafters in Utah because that number isn't retired there. Yet Neal Broten's number is retired in Dallas even though he only played a little over 100 games as a Dallas Star.

If Utah and Arizona share the same history why didn't they keep #19 retired? History is a huge part of what makes a franchise a franchise.

I understand that it's super hard to understand the difference between the team on the ice and the actual franchise but I assure you, they aren't' the same thing.

 

[njdevils1982]

You've misunderstood what I'm saying, I was referencing those jerseys in my post and the fact that NJ is allowed to do that and that Utah can't do stuff like that.

ah, got ya

 

[Golden_Jet]

Paul Cotter gonna win most improved boy

Will they play, the welcome back cotter theme song when they play in Vegas.

 

[Paper]

I'm just getting in this thread early before it's 200 pages and Allen is the obvious Vezina favourite.