Player Discussion Jacob Trouba

[offdacrossbar]

jake trouba is a horse. period.

he will play 25 reliable 1st pair minutes per game. he skates well, he makes good passes and he can play the PP1 point with that strong shot. he seems stoked to be a nyr and hes letter material down the pike.

so far, he's been mostly terrific.

this was a solid trade for a 25 yr old first pair guy. he checks boxes. few years from now, we will look back and say this was a smart trade and signing.

 

[Machinehead]

Meh a @Machinehead - @Killem Dafoe pairing could shut down the current Ottawa Senators and Killem is way past his prime.

So am I tbh

 

[rangersfansince08]

He isgoing to hit 60 points minimum imo.

 

[Captain Lindy]

No complaints at all. I didn't know much about him but watching him so far is really nice to see. Great move in getting him here.

About the rest of our D I think Skjei and Staal are the weak links. Although I don't think Staal is as bad as he was a couple of years ago.

 

[Edge]

Early verdict is that I was very, very wrong on Trouba.

I knew he was a good player but two things that always concerned me were the cost to acquire him and the cost to retain him. So far I am beyond thrilled with this acquisition. If he can keep up this level of play, his contract will begin to look better and better.

Putting aside where he goes from here, a big contributing factor is the cost to acquire him.

It's one thing to send Winnipeg's pick back to them, along with Pionk. It's another when we start talking about some of the earlier proposals.

Whether he's a number one, ideally a number a two, going to hold-up to being a focus on defense, etc., I really can't complain when you look at the price.

 

[True Blue]

Whether he's a number one, ideally a number a two, going to hold-up to being a focus on defense, etc., I really can't complain when you look at the price.

Exactly. I was against trading for him for some of the reasons that you state. But at the price that Gorton paid, it was a no brainer.

 

[rangersfansince08]

How many pts do you guys think he reaches? It wouldn't surprise me if get in the 60-70 range.

 

[Leetch3]

How many pts do you guys think he reaches? It wouldn't surprise me if get in the 60-70 range.

you wouldn't be surprised if a dman is almost a point per game player? completely realistic expectations

 

[Raspewtin]

Trouba with 60-70 poins on this team with this forward group would probably make him a Hart candidate imo

 

[rangersfansince08]

you wouldn't be surprised if a dman is almost a point per game player? completely realistic expectations

He got 50 last year. Can't we expect a jump as he gets more PP time than in Winnipeg?

 

[NYR Viper]

He got 50 last year. Can't we expect a jump as he gets more PP time than in Winnipeg?

He got a lot last year

 

[Zats Muccarello]

Realistically he will end up in mid 40s to low 50s range

 

[Edge]

Realistically he will end up in mid 40s to low 50s range

I'd be more than okay with those point totals.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

How many pts do you guys think he reaches? It wouldn't surprise me if get in the 60-70 range.

60-70? lol no.

 

[Rempe73]

I'd be more than okay with those point totals.

Yea same here. 40 would be very good. 50 would be amazing. I still question his offensive upside. Is he McDonagh-level (good but not great offensively), or is he better than that? I guess we’ll find out.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

How many pts do you guys think he reaches? It wouldn't surprise me if get in the 60-70 range.

6 dmen scored 60+ last season. If Trouba scores 60, it’ll surprise everyone including Trouba himself.

Winnipeg scored like 45 more goals than us last season so expecting him to surpass last seasons totals makes no sense.

 

[bobbop]

Once the Rangers can identify a long term partner for Trouba, he will be that much better. I don’t know if that player is under our roof right now.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Once the Rangers can identify a long term partner for Trouba, he will be that much better. I don’t know if that player is under our roof right now.

Very true. But nonetheless, Quinn needs to deploy him like the workhorse he is. I was ready to throw my remote through the TV watching Staal and DeAngelo trying to contain the McDavid line last game. That needs to change, fast.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

I'd be more than okay with those point totals.

I agree, I would be really happy with that total. All depends if he can stay healthy.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He got 50 last year. Can't we expect a jump as he gets more PP time than in Winnipeg?

Are you also accounting for the fact that our forward group is not as good as Winnipeg's?

 

[rangersfansince08]

Are you also accounting for the fact that our forward group is not as good as Winnipeg's?

True.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

True.

You shouldn't expect a jump then. Winnipeg had the 6th highest number of goals in the league last season. Rangers will be lucky if they aren't among the 6th lowest in that category this season.

 

[SA16]

You shouldn't expect a jump then. Winnipeg had the 6th highest number of goals in the league last season. Rangers will be lucky if they aren't among the 6th lowest in that category this season.

Defenseman scoring is almost purely based on which forwards they are on the ice with. A good defenseman can easily score more points on a bad team if he's constantly put out with the top line than on a good team if his usage is spread out. Letang for example historically plays about 55% of the time with Crosby and another 20% or so with Malkin. When he's not with them he basically does not score.

That said so far this year Trouba has not be out much with the top line and he got a good amount of time with the WPG top line last year.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Defenseman scoring is almost purely based on which forwards they are on the ice with. A good defenseman can easily score more points on a bad team if he's constantly put out with the top line than on a good team if his usage is spread out. Letang for example historically plays about 55% of the time with Crosby and another 20% or so with Malkin. When he's not with them he basically does not score.

That said so far this year Trouba has not be out much with the top line and he got a good amount of time with the WPG top line last year.

I didn't really specify this because I thought it was obvious he played a lot with the top lines in Winnipeg. This isn't a situation of a player getting more minutes or favourable match-ups/zonestarts.

 

[NYR Viper]

Once the Rangers can identify a long term partner for Trouba, he will be that much better. I don’t know if that player is under our roof right now.

I'm beginning to believe that the player may be in the organization but not yet with the team. A guy like Lindgren or Rykov may be a nice partner for a guy like Trouba.