Got to catch the Laval game in person the other night. It's trite at this point but he really does have that Price calming effect with his positioning and rebound control. He didn't have to show off any athleticism really so I'm curious to hear how others who have seen more of him would describe it. Price was a bit of a freak athlete which is where I feel they may differ.
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Yeah, not taking anything away from Fowler because he’s been very solid but Laval has made it very easy for him, which leads me to my next thought that he’s stopping what he should which bodes well since the team can be confident that he hopefully won’t let in too many muffins and will make the stops he should.
Actually a lot of our youth are lucky. Reinbacher is getting playoff hockey in his shortened season, all the young Habs this season. Meanwhile, other recent top picks around the league are toiling away on teams that went scorched earth.
But yeah, Fowler is lucky he didn’t walk into a shit show facing 40+ shots a game and odd man rushes every 5 minutes.
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He's not the spectacular type, he's more the JS-Giguere sort. He does most of his work before the shot even comes, with his reads, angles and his positioning. You don't see him react a whole lot, since more often than not he's square to the puck and playing the percentages. He moves as little as possible.
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He's the youngest goaltender in the AHL playoff I believe.
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Price was like that at some point of his carreer. In fact I often thought that it even went too far, he was mechanical like a robot in his movement to the point he was so perfect became predictable. Then he later adapted and let more room for his instincts and he became even better.
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It's strange but my favorite part of last game for him was when that CLE player barreled into him late in the 3rd
Kept his composure and got up like nothin happened
It's good to get a few 'pro' bumps in early because it'll only get more physical from here with these dirty plays
Ask Dobes vs Colorado lol
If he’s better then Dobes at camp, why not have him play 35-40 games in the NHL? What is better for development 35 games in NHL or 50 in AHL?
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Slow cooking goalies is always a good idea. He'd have to be leagues better than his competition to skip the AHL.
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Hellebuyck dominated NCAA and started 88 games in the AHL before making the NHL, Oettinger also spent a full year in the AHL before making the NHL.
No reason to make a decision based on camp and a few pre-season games. Let Fowler be the #1 guy for a year in the AHL and make a decision next off-season on what the plan will be with the goalies given Monty will be a soon to be UFA with only one year left on his deal.
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0 rush right now
(And you want the situation where he is playing *more* pro games actually, not *sitting* more than playing)
We're in an almost perfect situation right now oddly enough with the timeframe of the build with Monty signed 2 more years as the stopgap (no offense, and I'm one of monty's biggest supporters actually)
And instead of being in a situation where you're not sure how you feel about bringing Fowler into an NHL backup role so soon
You miraculously have Dobes right there already, who he himself is in a position to challenge Monty for #1 already (healthy competition) for the next 2 years
And once he wrestles the reigns away from Monty eventually
He will NOT be able to rest on his laurels because a 22 yr old Fowler will be RIGHT there nipping at his heels already for some more internal healthy competition lol
If it all goes according to plan, this couldn't be a better situation going forward lol
(And don't think for a SECOND this means Gorton will stop drafting Goalies too)
Carey Price made the jump right away at the same age and outgoalied Huet, playing half the games. And his peak is the best there was in the 2010s so I think we can all agree development wise it worked out just fine.
My point is, play him were he deserves based on his play, there’s no evidence AHL is better for development then NHL.
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Redux91
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You're Obadiah Stane here
Fowlers the poor scientist
And that last line should say "I'm sorry, I'm not Carey Price"
Lol, *thats* how special Carey was
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Carey didn't just split with Huet in 2007-08. He started the year in the AHL then came and stole the starting job like the other comment alluded to. Carey Price was the youngest goalie to become a starter in the 21st century. Carey Price was the last top 5, scratch that top 10 goalie selection in the draft. Not because there weren't good goalies, because unless you meet the Carey Price standard at that age, teams won't waste a top 10 pick on you. Like your gif alluded to, anyone who thinks Player X should follow the same developmental path as Price is bonkers. In his prime Price was legitimately a top 3 player in the league. Unless the habs are lucky enough to get another legendary status goalie (which based on their past isn't out of the question), goalies should probably take the path most taken instead of looking at unicorn Carey Price
No, Price started the year in Montreal. He had a brief demotion (swapped places with Halak) and then returned. At the TDL Huet was traded and Halak promoted again.
This is the tried and true way to develop. Even Vasy started in AHL and he came from KHL. Spencer Knight and Price both had a lot of issues from starting in NHL early that needed time to recover from...
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It's just crazy. Almost all of our young guys seems to be developing fine. It's so weird after.... the rest of my life up to these last 2 years ?
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My mistake. My point was he took the starting job from Huet by the end of the season at the age of 20
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The Spencer Knight situation was just stupid. Because they brought him up just to be a backup instead of letting him marinate in the AHL as a starter. If you're going to invest in a goalie, better to always allow him to get starting reps besides maybe his first season where he backs up someone
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I find this board is very reluctant to bring young guys up and let them earn a spot on the roster, but I agree with you.
Not to be given that role, but if he looks like the best or second best goalie at camp next year, he should be on the team.
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I would not say beside. Ideally you want a young goalie to backup one year in the NHL or at least be a 1B for a year before giving him the starting job.
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Everything was in shambles under Bergevin, top to bottom. Prospect development, especially at the AHL level, is the bread and butter of any strong organization.
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Price did not really have issues outside of in the mind of fans.
His lowest saves % in career is 905 and this happened two random seasons only. His saves % his first three seasons was 920, 905 and 912. Price's problem was well the team sucked and some fans did not want to admit that. It was easier to just target Price. The fans of this team do not have the capacity to admit the team is bad they prefer to search for a cancer. Price, Kovalev, soon it will be Slaf ...
He had 3 bad playoffs runs but two of them ended in 4 games with the team giving him 0 goal support. He really only had one bad playoffs run where the team played well and it was the Halak year. Price's struggle is grossly exaggerated by fans. He was perfectly fine and had a great career behind what was for the most part a bad team with no 1st line center to speak off.
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