Player Discussion Jack Quinn, RW (8th overall, 2020): Named AHL Rookie of the Year

[Jim Bob]

 

[Faceboner]

Oh I have no doubt that Jack Quinn will be an integral price of the core. A monster 2 way PPG player if he can just stay healthy.

He is like a right handed Hossa in terms of impact at least that is the ceiling I see

 

[Ehran]

He's had one practice, correct?

 

[Chainshot]

He's had one practice, correct?

Yeah.

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

It seems odd to go from injury -> surgery -> no team practice -> then 8 weeks later we wake up and he is 100% participant and playing in a game within 24 hours.

Normally you would see a more measured approach, building through multiple practices to 100%.

 

[Chainshot]

It seems odd to go from injury -> surgery -> no team practice -> then 8 weeks later we wake up and he is 100% participant and playing in a game within 24 hours. We have seen a lot of injuries in a lot of sports and surgery/8 weeks away from practicing to then suddenly 100% go at practice with no on ramp and playing live within 24 hours is not the standard for any of them.*

*unless teams are fighting for a championship.

I think he's probably been on the ice with the dev/training staff while they were on the road. I doubt they would put him in with only one day on the ice. Even they aren't that inept.

 

[Tatanka]

From what I have “heard” the surgery was not a reconstruction but rather a pin to assure the bone healed in the right place. Once the calcification happened they removed the pins. 8 weeks is about right for that type of procedure based on his health and age. Fwiw.

 

[Ehran]

Even they aren't that inept.

Do you REALLY want to put money on that?

 

[Irie]

Even they aren't that inept.

I think you might be underestimating this coaching staff in your assessment....

 

[Chainshot]

Do you REALLY want to put money on that?

As an avid non-gambler... sure. 10 bucks to a charity of the other's choice?

I think you might be underestimating this coaching staff in your assessment....

Even with their ineptness, it would be beyond shocking if this was done after just one day on the ice.

 

[Ehran]

As an avid non-gambler... sure. 10 bucks to a charity of the other's choice?

Eh, sorry was meant to be rhetorical.

 

[Dingo44]

 

[Dingo44]

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1835726967867400349

 

[Dubi Doo]

This kid could be our best forward one day. Please stay healthy!

 

[elchud]

This kid could be our best forward one day. Please stay healthy!

If he can score 30 this year (and Tage 40, Zuck 20) we will make the playoffs.

 

[tsujimoto74]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5767487/2024/09/19/nhl-connor-bedard-breakout-candidates-player/

Relevant bit:
“Injuries limited Quinn to just 27 games and robbed him of the opportunity to make serious noise around the league as a sophomore. Heading into year three, the 22-year-old right winger looks poised for a monster breakout.

For starters, Quinn produced five-on-five points at the fifth-best rate of all NHL forwards who logged 300 minutes last season.

5v5 Point Rate Leaders (2023-24)
1 Connor McDavid 3.5
2 Nathan MacKinnon 3.42
3 Nikita Kucherov 3.07
4 Auston Matthews 2.95
5 Jack Quinn 2.93
6 David Pastrnak 2.89
7 Artemi Panarin 2.86
8 Sidney Crosby 2.76
9 Max Domi 2.73
10 Nico Hischier 2.7

Quinn is a cerebral, high-IQ attacker in the offensive zone. He has the high-end puck skills and patience to make poised plays in dangerous offensive spots where defenders are applying pressure. He has a knack for slipping away from defenders and getting open on the inside and a filthy shot from mid-range. Quinn isn’t a dynamic skater or puck carrier, but if he’s paired with a speedy, play-driving left winger (which the Sabres have options for), it backs off defenders and creates extra space for him to make plays.

Increased usage alone could unlock a significant production increase for Quinn. He ranked ninth among Sabres forwards in five-on-five ice-time per game last season and seventh in average power-play time. With Jeff Skinner gone, he could be one of a few contenders to spend more time on the first unit power-play. Quinn has all the talent to be a top-of-the-lineup stud — all he needs is a clean bill of health and a bigger role to shine in 2024-25.“

ETA: I had no idea he was *that* efficient as a point-producer last year. I was already excited for a healthy season from him, but now even more so.

 

[Dubi Doo]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5767487/2024/09/19/nhl-connor-bedard-breakout-candidates-player/

Relevant bit:
“Injuries limited Quinn to just 27 games and robbed him of the opportunity to make serious noise around the league as a sophomore. Heading into year three, the 22-year-old right winger looks poised for a monster breakout.

For starters, Quinn produced five-on-five points at the fifth-best rate of all NHL forwards who logged 300 minutes last season.

5v5 Point Rate Leaders (2023-24)
1 Connor McDavid 3.5
2 Nathan MacKinnon 3.42
3 Nikita Kucherov 3.07
4 Auston Matthews 2.95
5 Jack Quinn 2.93
6 David Pastrnak 2.89
7 Artemi Panarin 2.86
8 Sidney Crosby 2.76
9 Max Domi 2.73
10 Nico Hischier 2.7

Quinn is a cerebral, high-IQ attacker in the offensive zone. He has the high-end puck skills and patience to make poised plays in dangerous offensive spots where defenders are applying pressure. He has a knack for slipping away from defenders and getting open on the inside and a filthy shot from mid-range. Quinn isn’t a dynamic skater or puck carrier, but if he’s paired with a speedy, play-driving left winger (which the Sabres have options for), it backs off defenders and creates extra space for him to make plays.

Increased usage alone could unlock a significant production increase for Quinn. He ranked ninth among Sabres forwards in five-on-five ice-time per game last season and seventh in average power-play time. With Jeff Skinner gone, he could be one of a few contenders to spend more time on the first unit power-play. Quinn has all the talent to be a top-of-the-lineup stud — all he needs is a clean bill of health and a bigger role to shine in 2024-25.“

ETA: I had no idea he was *that* efficient as a point-producer last year. I was already excited for a healthy season from him, but now even more so.

Hmmmm...Semantics, but I think Quinn is a dynamic skater. His edge work is nice.

Also, he's going to be one of our better two-way players if everything goes right. He's a gem!

 

[DapperCam]

This kid could be our best forward one day. Please stay healthy!

If he stays healthy this year I think he will lead Sabres forwards in points (and maybe the team, depends on Dahlin).

 

[ForsbergMoDo21]

Hmmmm...Semantics, but I think Quinn is a dynamic skater. His edge work is nice.

Also, he's going to be one of our better two-way players if everything goes right. He's a gem!

That was my thinking as well. His ability to slip around defenders has always stood out to me.

I think Quinn in place of Skinner on PP1, plus the removal of Ellis, is enough change to make for a drastic turnaround.

 

[Satanphonehome]

If Quinn plays like most of the fan base seems to think he will, and Tage produces at just an average of his past 3 years, the Sabres will have 2 dangerous lines and concerns about the offence should disappear.

 

[tsujimoto74]

If Quinn plays like most of the fan base seems to think he will, and Tage produces at just an average of his past 3 years, the Sabres will have 2 dangerous lines and concerns about the offence should disappear.

I think the biggest problem with the offense last season was how utterly inept the PP was. Hopefully the coaching issues there are resolved and we can get a PP that’s at least average this year. On the personnel side of things, having more Quinn and no Skinner should help nudge things in the right direction. (Even in his best seasons, Skinner was really an ES specialist/kind of a disaster on the PP.)

 

[Dingo44]

 

[TageGod]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5767487/2024/09/19/nhl-connor-bedard-breakout-candidates-player/

Relevant bit:
“Injuries limited Quinn to just 27 games and robbed him of the opportunity to make serious noise around the league as a sophomore. Heading into year three, the 22-year-old right winger looks poised for a monster breakout.

For starters, Quinn produced five-on-five points at the fifth-best rate of all NHL forwards who logged 300 minutes last season.

5v5 Point Rate Leaders (2023-24)
1 Connor McDavid 3.5
2 Nathan MacKinnon 3.42
3 Nikita Kucherov 3.07
4 Auston Matthews 2.95
5 Jack Quinn 2.93
6 David Pastrnak 2.89
7 Artemi Panarin 2.86
8 Sidney Crosby 2.76
9 Max Domi 2.73
10 Nico Hischier 2.7

Quinn is a cerebral, high-IQ attacker in the offensive zone. He has the high-end puck skills and patience to make poised plays in dangerous offensive spots where defenders are applying pressure. He has a knack for slipping away from defenders and getting open on the inside and a filthy shot from mid-range. Quinn isn’t a dynamic skater or puck carrier, but if he’s paired with a speedy, play-driving left winger (which the Sabres have options for), it backs off defenders and creates extra space for him to make plays.

Increased usage alone could unlock a significant production increase for Quinn. He ranked ninth among Sabres forwards in five-on-five ice-time per game last season and seventh in average power-play time. With Jeff Skinner gone, he could be one of a few contenders to spend more time on the first unit power-play. Quinn has all the talent to be a top-of-the-lineup stud — all he needs is a clean bill of health and a bigger role to shine in 2024-25.“

ETA: I had no idea he was *that* efficient as a point-producer last year. I was already excited for a healthy season from him, but now even more so.

You should check Peterka's 5v5 production while you are gushing over Quinn!

 

[Matt Ress]

You should check Peterka's 5v5 production while you are gushing over Quinn!

I’ve said it before, if JJ can up his PP production he will reach the next tier of scorers. I guess we can say the same for Quinner who doesn’t have the speed of JJ but I think is more dynamic offensively