Value of: J.Toews @2.625 in the offseason

[jmelm]

That’s deadline….not full season big f***ing difference on salary retained by other team.

Pay attention to actual salary (which is declining), not his AAV.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Wow Mathews-Tavares-Towes-Kampf

That’s an amazing centre core. Let’s not forget Towes is top 10 in the NHL in the dot he is also responsible defensively while being able to chip in some offence. I’d give a 1st+ for that.

 

[BatVader]

Wow Mathews-Tavares-Towes-Kampf

That’s an amazing centre core. Let’s not forget Towes is top 10 in the NHL in the dot he is also responsible defensively while being able to chip in some offence. I’d give a 1st+ for that.

You’re the only one who would

 

[KevinRedkey]

Wow Mathews-Tavares-Towes-Kampf

That’s an amazing centre core. Let’s not forget Towes is top 10 in the NHL in the dot he is also responsible defensively while being able to chip in some offence. I’d give a 1st+ for that.

If someone offered a 1st, the deal could be:

To Ottawa:
50% of Toews
2nd from Chicago

To Chicago:
25% (the 2nd 50% part) of Toews
MDZ from Ottawa
1st from Toronto

To Toronto:
Toews at 25%

Chicago upgrades their pick from a 2nd to a 1st and saves 7.000 in cap space
Ottawa gets a 2nd and saves Melnyk 0.800 in actual cash, while taking on cap they aren't gonna use anyways.
Toronto gets Toews at 2.625 for a 1st (in this example anyways)

My point is it can make sense for Chicago (and Ottawa) if a team is willing to pay MORE than what Ottawa is willing to accept for retention. I think it's actually doable since Ottawa isn't losing much of anything either way.

Note: If a 1st isn't realistic, then either way.. it all comes down to Chicago getting more than Ottawa accepts. If Chicago gets a 2nd for a 3rd then it's the same difference.

 

[McSuper]

Forget how he gets to that cap hit for a moment. What would your team pony up for for Toews for 1yr at a very reasonable cap hit?

The problem with this is Toews is making 10.5 and is currently a 3C . A 3 C is about a 3 million player give or take . So a team is going to want to pay the rate for a 3rd line C . The team isn't going to pay Chicago to retain and they aren't paying a 3rd team to retain . Chicago would have to pay team 2 to retain . Chicago would come out with a net lost and have 5.25 million cap hit .

 

[Luck 6]

At 2.65mil I think he’d have value. I think you’d get a team willing to pay a 1st maybe even perhaps…

Who knows, maybe he could rekindle form in the playoffs.

 

[Behn Wilson]

Toews, even though he scored tonight looks like he has nothing left in the tank. Maybe the offseason he will recover more from his illness, if not its going to be another 10 or so goal season,

 

[Phil68]

Moral of the story usually when you are a captain of a team that won 3 cups the media hype happens and the value is there. But he ain’t that player anymore.

He never was that great. He was good yes but not great not 10.5 mil worth

 

[Stephen]

I wonder if the Bruins would take a flyer on him as a stop gap if Bergeron retires?

 

[Habs10025]

At this cap hit, I'd take him on the Habs.

Suzuki
Toews
Dvorak
Evans/Poehling

isn't bad at all!

What's the cost?

No.

 

[Bouboumaster]

No.

Yasss

 

[Habs10025]

Yasss

Unlikely Montreal trade for Toews .

 

[mouser]

Pay attention to actual salary (which is declining), not his AAV.

Yup. And the third team retaining salary would be taking on $725k. That’s worth a 3rd round pick—teams get 4th round picks for retaining around $250k in salary as a middle man.

Toews is a distressed negative asset, so the “value” of Chicago retaining 50% on Toews only offsets that negative value. The retention can’t be valued independently of the contract.