Player Discussion Ivan Demidov: Welcome to Montreal

[Marioesque]

Because he will never, ever, let go of the narrative he has already created. Everything is Laine’s fault.

You're absolutely right. It's just so odd to experience.

 

[CrazyBob]

They need to give Demidov the puck more often. He should be the main puck carrier on his line. Laine keep turning it over and Newhook is not a good playmaker

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You're absolutely right. It's just so odd to experience.

Laine should’ve put that puck in the net for Newhook too. What a nice pass by Laine there to find the pinching dman.

 

[Erika]

Dissapointing once again, he looks lost out there.
Demidov is a bust to me.
He is not that guy, ok 2nd liner, but a tweener that is afraid of physical contacts.
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Am I doing this right @Mrb1p ?

 

[Skip Bayless]

MSL needs to be less conservative with him and play him in key offensive situations + PP.

The kid knows how to play and is responsible enough to handle it. He's not your typical 19 year old.

 

[calder candidate]

Try trading him at 50% retained first, but if we have a pay to make it happen, then the buyout solution is certainly the right avenue and not a big impediment to our future cap. 3.9mil next season, 2.667 the final year, which is just a tad worst than trading him 50% retained.

We don’t need the cap space he got one year left just ride it out…

 

[Erika]

MSL needs to be less conservative with him and play him in key offensive situations + PP.

The kids knows how to play and is responsible enough to handle it. He's not your typical 19 year old.

Yeah, Martin ''Rotenberg'' St-Louis has been dissapointing so far. It's like he doesn't adapt and is afraid to make bold changes. This is a learning experience and the young guys should be playing more instead the old veterans that will not return next year.

 

[zzoo]

When Hutson joined the team, he instantly became our top 3 players. I thought that would happen to Demidov too (who is more hyped than Hutson). I'm bit disappointed here. I understand that I'm not reasonable. I know that I don't make sense to demand a rookie to perform great in playoffs.
Before Demidov joins the team, I thought he's our 2nd or 3rd best forward, but unfortunately it's not the case. He's not like Hutson or Caufield when they join the team and had an instant impact.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

When Hutson joined the team, he instantly became our top 3 players. I thought that would happen to Demidov too (who is more hyped than Hutson). I'm bit disappointed here. I understand that I'm not reasonable. I know that I don't make sense to demand a rookie to perform great in playoffs.
Before Demidov joins the team, I thought he's our 2nd or 3rd best forward, but unfortunately it's not the case. He's not like Hutson or Caufield when they join the team and had an instant impact.

Playoffs =/= Regular season. Hutson, with a full great season, is struggling in these playoffs. It's hard for the kids, they need time.

 

[Jabba11]

Fans here need to calm down. First, Demidov's 3rd game ever is a playoffs game.

He's playing 10-12 minutes a game. Placed with bad linemates who can't finish or pass.

Finally, he's seeing some good time in the 3rd period. The kid had some struggles but it's literally the layoffs against the #1 team in the conference. He actually tries to play physical. He created changes in the 3rd when giving the proper icetime for it.

Demidov will have similar impact as Hutson and Caufield when they came over. Just breathe. Watch it Friday

 

[Frank Drebin]

When Hutson joined the team, he instantly became our top 3 players. I thought that would happen to Demidov too (who is more hyped than Hutson). I'm bit disappointed here. I understand that I'm not reasonable. I know that I don't make sense to demand a rookie to perform great in playoffs.
Before Demidov joins the team, I thought he's our 2nd or 3rd best forward, but unfortunately it's not the case. He's not like Hutson or Caufield when they join the team and had an instant impact.

Demidov isn’t a rookie. He’s a pre rookie
He has spent 10 days in a new continent
Rookies have training camps and preseason. A bit of time to adjust to the lifestyle team and language.

It was his 4th game and he got handed a new line mate in the third.

In the playoffs , playing against a big, heavy, skilled #1 seed

Its a lot. It’s too much and we expected too much

 

[Schooner Goon]

When Hutson joined the team, he instantly became our top 3 players. I thought that would happen to Demidov too (who is more hyped than Hutson). I'm bit disappointed here. I understand that I'm not reasonable. I know that I don't make sense to demand a rookie to perform great in playoffs.
Before Demidov joins the team, I thought he's our 2nd or 3rd best forward, but unfortunately it's not the case. He's not like Hutson or Caufield when they join the team and had an instant impact.

Dude, he's 19 years old and played 2 NHL games before these playoffs. He was drafted less than 10 months ago.

 

[ottawa]

He had one bad giveaway (so did many others) today...otherwise he doesn't seem out of place. It's a shame he doesn't have more TOI, and in the little bit of TOI he does have it's a shame he's not the main puck carrier like he should be.

Him getting a taste of the playoffs is the best thing for his development, looking forward to hearing about his offseason training.

 

[TomKosto]

Lots of fans here have put expectations through the roof for Ivan. It was always clear for me that he would need time to adjust, specially in the playoffs againts a big boy team.

 

[Mrb1p]

Dissapointing once again, he looks lost out there.
Demidov is a bust to me.
He is not that guy, ok 2nd liner, but a tweener that is afraid of physical contacts.
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Am I doing this right @Mrb1p ?

Not really no. These two players have nothing in common. Slaf could barely take a shift in the NHL at Demidovs age.

 

[Mrb1p]

Didnt play on the 6 on 5 btw. Marty is dumb.

 

[Habs]

MSL needs to be less conservative with him and play him in key offensive situations + PP.

The kid knows how to play and is responsible enough to handle it. He's not your typical 19 year old.

MSL just loves Newhook, Demidov is hooped will never get the dorks minutes.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

MSL needs to be less conservative with him and play him in key offensive situations + PP.

The kid knows how to play and is responsible enough to handle it. He's not your typical 19 year old.

Could not agree more

 

[Sorinth]

They need to give Demidov the puck more often. He should be the main puck carrier on his line.

This isn't a conscious decision though, and pretty much comes down to Demidov's positioning not being open at the right time. It will improve with time and practice because it's mostly a question of routes.

 

[Kojo]

It's a bad spot for him. He's had an exceptional season in the KHL then he gets put in the lion's den after playing only 2 NHL games. The season is on the line and he has to play with Laine...

 

[KevSkillz4]

Looks like a BUST to me at this point.

 

[HabsAddict]

It's a bad spot for him. He's had an exceptional season in the KHL then he gets put in the lion's den after playing only 2 NHL games. The season is on the line and he has to play with Laine...

I'm not going to rag on what SMarty is turning out to be, but he wont change anything until it's an obviously failure on several universes.

Call up Beck and give the kids a chance. Stop doing the same thing over and over until total failure is staring at us.

 

[Hins77]

Ryan Leonard is doing absolutely nothing in Washington right now. I mean Leonard has no impact at all on washington side. He remains a good player. He is just young. It the same thing for Demidov. At 19 years old, starting in the playoff. It's normal that he is looking like a deer on a highway

 

[Kojo]

Ryan Leonard is doing absolutely nothing in Washington right now. I mean Leonard has no impact at all on washington side. He remains a good player. He is just young. It the same thing for Demidov. At 19 years old, starting in the playoff. It's normal that he is looking like a deer on a highway

I thought Leonard had a better game than Demidov, slightly better impact. More involved in the plays.

Not sure why you bring up Leonard in a Demidov thread though.

 

[Paradoxe]

Looks like a BUST to me at this point.

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