Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part II

[Team_Spirit]

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If they lose there is always the chance he can buy out his contract and get over here.

There is no chance of that happening

 

[SwiftyHab]

There is no chance of that happening

If they lose and rottenman gets fired, there’s a chance that things change

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Why would Demidov bother buying out a contract that's about to end anyway?

 

[Runner77]

You do NOT get rd as good as Reinbacher in a trade very often,

Neither do we know for certain how good he can be or if his knee issues are behind him. Plus, he may or may not be offensively productive. I’d rather wait and see and then assess.

Not convinced he should have been the pick but I’m hoping he proves otherwise.

Oh … it’s a Demidov thread?

Now, Demidov — talk about an indisputable selection where the Habs got him.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

This team is going nowhere this season. See him in June or July.

With Demidov they could go somewhere. Might just make a decent 2nd line.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why would Demidov bother buying out a contract that's about to end anyway?

Obviously to get to play in the playoffs and burn a year off UFA status.
And is Dumbo the GM and coach? If not he would have no say in what happens to Ivan once the KHL season ends.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Obviously to get to play in the playoffs and burn a year off UFA status.

He's already playing in the playoffs. Had a full season playing with pros as is, needs to focus on getting stronger and more explosive. Maybe my opinion would be different if he was a year older, or coming out of college with the shorter schedule.

Buying out a contract with two months remaining in this situation seems silly and short term focused at best, and there is zero guarantee Habs make the playoffs anyway.

 

[le_sean]

I’d rather just toss this season aside and have Demidov on an ELC for three full seasons. Much more valuable.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Why would Demidov bother buying out a contract that's about to end anyway?

He can come over sooner, burn a year of his ELC and get closer to the big money.

 

[Ezpz]

Why would Demidov bother buying out a contract that's about to end anyway?

I think that was the issue between him and the team. They reportedly didn't want him to re-sign to stay but so that they would get a buyout lump from him at the end of the season. I don't know enough about KHL rules but maybe rookies can't buy out their version of entry level contracts?

 

[Scriptor]

BTW, Demidov on the first line in this playoff game and he has a goal...

 

[JIMVINNY]

I’d rather just toss this season aside and have Demidov on an ELC for three full seasons. Much more valuable.

It will be far cheaper to sign him to an 8 year extension after his rookie year.

 

[Boyon90]

It will be far cheaper to sign him to an 8 year extension after his rookie year.

I dont think thats a very strong argument, you think his agent doesnt know the tactic?

 

[Runner77]

 

[Runner77]

Jordan Weal sighting!

 

[Zine]

I think that was the issue between him and the team. They reportedly didn't want him to re-sign to stay but so that they would get a buyout lump from him at the end of the season. I don't know enough about KHL rules but maybe rookies can't buy out their version of entry level contracts?

Any player can unilaterally terminate his contract by paying 2/3 his salary and giving 16 months prior notice.
Obviously Demidov didnt do this.

That said, contract termination by mutual consent is still an option. There aren’t any rules governing mutual termination.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If they lose and rottenman gets fired, there’s a chance that things change

Hoping that Demidov misses out on a great playoff experience with SKA for that very small % chance of being able to bring him over sooner is not a good strategy.

 

[LaP]

Most names have variant period.

Frank or Franky for Francis
Seb for Sebastien
Pat for Patrick
Bill for William (makes no sense but it is what it is)
...

 

[LaP]

With Demidov they could go somewhere. Might just make a decent 2nd line.

Needs more youth in the bottom 6 imo

 

[SwiftyHab]

Hoping that Demidov misses out on a great playoff experience with SKA for that very small % chance of being able to bring him over sooner is not a good strategy.

It is if he gets to play nhl playoffs

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hoping that Demidov misses out on a great playoff experience with SKA for that very small % chance of being able to bring him over sooner is not a good strategy.

SKA is going nowhere. it wouldn't last long anyway. If he was coming over it would have to be to play for the Habs though. No point signing him to play for Laval this season.

 

[le_sean]

It will be far cheaper to sign him to an 8 year extension after his rookie year.

I don’t mind paying top dollar for a player that deserves it. The Habs problems the cap era has been paying guys for what they have done, not what they are going to do.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I don’t know why people want to rush things.

Because it would be beneficial to burn a year so we can sign him to an extention before the cap goes up an extra 15mil in 27 months, added to the 10 mil from July 2025 and 2026. We burn a year, we can already sign him to his second contract in summer 2026. In summer 2027, the cap will be close to 115 mil. We also get to re-sign him with only his rookie season played, where he has less mileage and numbers to ask for more.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Why would Demidov bother buying out a contract that's about to end anyway?

Because he can then sign his ELC earlier, cutting off a year before he can earn the big bucks.