Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part II

[Vachon23]

Some are laughing, but that guy is a potential generational talent.

Generational, no even Celebrini is not generational.

Superstar ? Yes maybe he can become that

 

[Bombshell11]

Generational, no even Celebrini is not generational.

Superstar ? Yes maybe he can become that

Maybe he can become a superstar? What? He's already a superstar. This is not even a question any more. He's the most prolific young player in the KHLs history.

Is he generational? Absolutely.... will it translate in the NHL next year? thats a question that will be answered next year... but as of now, he has undeniably reached the Generational Status. The CHL can't be the only place where generational talents come from. Its stupid to think that in the last 100 years only Canada has produced generational players when we've seen so many european players dominate here.

Kucherov is freaking generational but no one talks about him that way...He's been consistently running at the same pace as McDavid and has won 3 cups yet for some reason... he never gets mentioned as a generational talent.

Demidov is 100% it.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Good, he shouldn’t be playing on the top line until he learns rispeck

 

[Vachon23]

Maybe he can become a superstar? What? He's already a superstar. This is not even a question any more. He's the most prolific young player in the KHLs history.

Is he generational? Absolutely.... will it translate in the NHL next year? thats a question that will be answered next year... but as of now, he has undeniably reached the Generational Status. The CHL can't be the only place where generational talents come from. Its stupid to think that in the last 100 years only Canada has produced generational players when we've seen so many european players dominate here.

Kucherov is freaking generational but no one talks about him that way...He's been consistently running at the same pace as McDavid and has won 3 cups yet for some reason... he never gets mentioned as a generational talent.

Demidov is 100% it.

He’s not already a superstar, he haven’t played an NHL game yet…

And generational players are Crosby, McDavid and maybe Makar, Kucherov. He’s not at that level… Like I said even Celebrini is not generational

 

[Bombshell11]

He’s not already a superstar, he haven’t played an NHL game yet…

And generational players are Crosby, McDavid and maybe Makar, Kucherov. He’s not at that level… Like I said even Celebrini is not generational

I think you miss understand the context. We're talking about a player who's not yet in the NHL.

Just like Bedard was considered generational before the draft.

Demi is generational at the moment

 

[Vachon23]

I think you miss understand the context. We're talking about a player who's not yet in the NHL.

Just like Bedard was considered generational before the draft.

Demi is generational at the moment

Generational prospect are not getting draft 5oa

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Generational prospect are not getting draft 5oa

Dude, you just named Kucherov maybe generational. Do you have an idea where he was drafted? On top of Makar who was drafted just one pick earlier than Demidov.

He definitely has generational and superstar potential.

 

[Vachon23]

Dude, you just named Kucherov maybe generational. Do you have an idea where he was drafted? On top of Makar who was drafted just one pick earlier than Demidov.

He definitely has generational and superstar potential.

I think you miss understand the context. We're talking about a player who's not yet in the NHL.

His point was when they where not in the NHL

I did said he could be a superstar but generational are players like Crosby McDavid what he’s not

 

[Bombshell11]

Generational prospect are not getting draft 5oa

terrible logic

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Generational prospect are not getting draft 5oa

Tom Brady was the last pick of the NFL draft

 

[WeThreeKings]

Tom Brady was the last pick of the NFL draft

Purdy was.

Brady went in the 180s.

 

[Vachon23]

Tom Brady was the last pick of the NFL draft

And he wasn’t a generational prospect

 

[Sasha Orlov]

And he wasn’t a generational prospect

So does it only count at the time someone is drafted or what

Makes no sense

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

His point was when they where not in the NHL

I did said he could be a superstar but generational are players like Crosby McDavid what he’s not

Nobody knows where he'll end-up, not you, nor I, so your disbelief is pointless, but using draft pick rank to define that is patently ridiculous.Most people would agree Makar is generational. Drafted 4th. Some say Hughes is too. Drafted 7th.

 

[Vachon23]

So does it only count at the time someone is drafted or what

Makes no sense

I think you miss understand the context. We're talking about a player who's not yet in the NHL.

Nobody knows where he'll end-up, not you, nor I, so your disbelief is pointless, but using draft pick rank to define that is patently ridiculous.Most people would agree Makar is generational. Drafted 4th. Some say Hughes is too. Drafted 7th.

Generational player are used for players who dominate the league, a player who will win multiple MVP. You really think Demidov will win multiple Hart trophy ?

Définition from chatGBT
A generational player is an athlete whose talent, skill, and impact on their sport are so exceptional that they define an era. These players are rare, often appearing only once in a generation, and they possess a unique combination of skill, dominance, and influence that sets them apart from their peers.

In team sports like basketball, football, or hockey, generational players often change how the game is played, set records, and lead their teams to championships. They are not just great players but transcend their sport through longevity, consistency, and influence.

Examples include Michael Jordan in basketball, Tom Brady in football, and Wayne Gretzky in hockey. A generational player is someone you can look back on decades later and say they were truly one of a kind.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Generational player are used for players who dominate the league, a player who will win multiple MVP. You really think Demidov will win multiple Hart trophy ?

He absolutely has the potential to, yes

 

[Vachon23]

He absolutely has the potential to, yes

Ok then…

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Ok then…

I’m sorry you didn’t like my answer, next time don’t ask

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Generational player are used for players who dominate the league, a player who will win multiple MVP. You really think Demidov will win multiple Hart trophy ?

Définition from chatGBT
A generational player is an athlete whose talent, skill, and impact on their sport are so exceptional that they define an era. These players are rare, often appearing only once in a generation, and they possess a unique combination of skill, dominance, and influence that sets them apart from their peers.

In team sports like basketball, football, or hockey, generational players often change how the game is played, set records, and lead their teams to championships. They are not just great players but transcend their sport through longevity, consistency, and influence.

Examples include Michael Jordan in basketball, Tom Brady in football, and Wayne Gretzky in hockey. A generational player is someone you can look back on decades later and say they were truly one of a kind.

Lol chatgpt doesn't define the potential of present players. Nobody knew if McDavid was gonna be generational. The potential was there. That's what people knew.

 

[Bombshell11]

Generational player are used for players who dominate the league, a player who will win multiple MVP. You really think Demidov will win multiple Hart trophy ?

I think he's better than Bedard and Bedard was called Generational

I think he's got the skills and intensity to match those of McDavid and can develop to become a better player. He's dominating the KHL which is the second best league in the world.

His production is about 30% higher on a per 60 min basis than Michkov's last year

This is right now a description of generational player

Is he going to translate it into the NHL? WHO KNOWS

Even McDavid, wasn't McDavid right away, it took him a few years to hit that Gnerational clutch.

He's got the body and the skills to reach that level in the NHL. He's got the blueprints of a generational talent. Where he was drafted, no one cares.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I think he's got the skills and intensity to match those of McDavid and can develop to become a better player.

Comments like this are why you get dragged constantly

There is literally no chance of this happening

 

[japhi27returns]

Generational with regards to players is so ridiculous. Almost as stupid as “tilting the ice”. Ignore anyone that says either.

 

[Bombshell11]

Comments like this are why you get dragged constantly

There is literally no chance of this happening

And why do you think so? Based on what?

McDavid's production per 60 minutes is 3.91 pts/60
The top producer in the KHL is J. Leivo with 3.87 pts/60
Demidov as a rookie is 3.82 pts/60

I dont like to make projections only on stats but the eye-test in this case is checking, the physical talents are there, the game style is good and we got the stats to back it off.

And SKA are not pampering him either... so yeah, no, this guy is the real deal and he's going to dominate the NHL when lands here. This is not even a bold statement.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

And why do you think so? Based on what?

McDavid's production per 60 minutes is 3.91 pts/60
The top producer in the KHL is J. Leivo with 3.87 pts/60
Demidov as a rookie is 3.82 pts/60

I dont like to make projections only on stats but the eye-test in this case is checking, the physical talents are there, the game style is good and we got the stats to back it off.

And SKA are not pampering him either... so yeah, no, this guy is the real deal and he's going to dominate the NHL when lands here. This is not even a bold statement.

Yes, Demidov will be a dominant player

He will not, unfortunately, be a top 5 player of all time

I will literally bet you all of my money on this and possibly my life as well

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

Generational, no even Celebrini is not generational.

Superstar ? Yes maybe he can become that

Who says, he won't be better than Celebrini, i think he will be a bigger points producer than Celebrini.