Ivan Demidov 1st career goal

[Vasilevskiy]

Knew this thread would go well

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I probably watched over 600 games of Ribeiro in my life and I never saw Mike do one thing that Demidov did yesterday. Not even one game. Mike Ribeiro was a stick handler and a playmaker. End of. As soon as Ribeiro would enter the offensive zone he would slow down to pick up a trailer or look for an assist, he was not physical, he had an horrible shot, he was slow, he barely moved but he had eyes behind his head with great anticipation and hockey IQ that could pick up players nobody thought was open but he also rarely ventured in front of the net always on the periphery. I have seen enough of Demidov to know that he has nothing in common with Mike other than being a very good playmaker and good stickhandler. Demidov love to use his edge to open space. He is always in movement and rarely static, he loves to attack the net. He has a very powerful shot and he can be a trigger man although he is a pass first. He does not slow down when he enter the offensive zone, he always play to push forward. I see no comparison with Ribeiro. I have no direct comparison that seem accurate. Kaprizov is probably the best comp. from current players

 

[BMann]

I don't know what to think. Having this type of backcheck in your first nhl game with a play-off on the line is very concerning.

And when the Habs tied the game late in the third everyone on the bench was full of excitement except for Demidov.

Otherwise a stunning game offensively. I cant deny the talent.

Well he may have been tired. He had a long flight over, Of course the coaches will have a word with him. Maybe his idea of excitement is not to tie but thinking of winning the game.

This minute nit picking is an awful trait across social media & forums. Often from people who make comments that are not based on any real evidence but hunches. Hunches often with loaded biases. And also the terrible trait today across all sports of judging young players on the basis of not sometimes even a few games but one game & then maybe one error throughout that game.

It's a good thing these people are not coaches otherwise most young players would pack it in sharpish. Judge youngsters over 2-3 years & even then if they are still failing in certain areas they can improve as we have seen in many player retrospectives.

 

[Kojo]

Are people really this dumb?

His floor is MacKinnon. Ceiling is probably either Messi or MJ23

His idol is Kobe, I could see him having a similar career.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I was watching the corpse of Joel Armia rocketlaunching his career, go Army go!

We're used to players having to carry around the corpse of Armia

 

[jimstark]

He will be the best in the NHL in a couple of years you could se there was someting special about him , just coming over and and literally thrown right out in an NHL game

 

[Beerz]

Pretty wild this thread is fast approaching the Ovechkin record breaking goal thread that was created on April 6th

 

[Crow]

He's not gonna be 3x art ross winner with b2b 30 pt playoffs. There is no way.

I wouldn't expect that from a generational type #1 oa player. "No ceiling " I guess to some degree but with 99.9 percent certainty he will never be as good as Kuch or Mackinnon.

If he could be a 100 pt player I'd be ecstatic

I feel like we are arguing semantics, but your points contradict themselves.

It’s can’t be true that “there is no way” he can be on that level and there is a ‘1 in a 1000’ chance he will be.

Stranger things happen all the time than those that have a .1% chance.

The specific number you threw out there isn’t as important as the fact that there is a chance he will be on that level albeit a small one.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Lol Ribeiro. Stylistically, he’s much closer to Malkin. Still not really all that close though. He’s a unique player.

What? I can't think of a single similarity he has with Malkin other than the fact that they're both Russian. This is the most random comparison of any star player I've seen in a while.

To me Demidov plays kind of like a more intense, harder working Kovalev tbh. In terms of active players, maybe like a worse-skating MacKinnon?

A stronger, faster and harder-working Ribeiro might actually be the perfect description lol. Why are you all so mad about that? Mike Ribeiro with +10 skating, +10 intensity, +10strength, and +10 defensive play would have been a top 5 player every single year...

 

[Ajex12x]

I probably watched over 600 games of Ribeiro in my life and I never saw Mike do one thing that Demidov did yesterday. Not even one game. Mike Ribeiro was a stick handler and a playmaker. End of. As soon as Ribeiro would enter the offensive zone he would slow down to pick up a trailer or look for an assist, he was not physical, he had an horrible shot, he was slow, he barely moved but he had eyes behind his head with great anticipation and hockey IQ that could pick up players nobody thought was open but he also rarely ventured in front of the net always on the periphery. I have seen enough of Demidov to know that he has nothing in common with Mike other than being a very good playmaker and good stickhandler. Demidov love to use his edge to open space. He is always in movement and rarely static, he loves to attack the net. He has a very powerful shot and he can be a trigger man although he is a pass first. He does not slow down when he enter the offensive zone, he always play to push forward. I see no comparison with Ribeiro. I have no direct comparison that seem accurate. Kaprizov is probably the best comp. from current players

I've probably read 600 books in my life and all of them have paragraphs. If you want to make a point, this is not the way to do it

 

[Garbageyuk]

What? I can't think of a single similarity he has with Malkin other than the fact that they're both Russian. This is the most random comparison of any star player I've seen in a while.

To me Demidov plays kind of like a more intense, harder working Kovalev tbh. In terms of active players, maybe like a worse-skating MacKinnon?

A stronger, faster and harder-working Ribeiro might actually be the perfect description lol. Why are you all so mad about that? Mike Ribeiro with +10 skating, +10 intensity, +10strength, and +10 defensive play would have been a top 5 player every single year...

And +30 shot, +30 compete, +10 hands, +10 vision, +10 passing, + 10-20 puck protection, +10 IQ, etc.

And +10 intensity? More like +30, at least. Ribeiro might’ve been the least intense player in the league when he played.

There are too many pluses required for it to be a useful comparison.

 

[Garbageyuk]

I've probably read 600 books in my life and all of them have paragraphs. If you want to make a point, this is not the way to do it

In other words, you read the whole thing just fine, but couldn’t think of a good retort

 

[Ajex12x]

In other words, you read the whole thing just fine, but couldn’t think of a good retort

No I didn't read anything past the first few sentences because how could you? English mother f****", do you speak it?

 

[Garbageyuk]

No I didn't read anything past the first few sentences because how could you? English mother f****", do you speak it?

Wasn’t my post lol. You don’t know what’s going on

 

[landy]

Why is this 16 pages deep?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

are playoffs fun leafs fan?

your avatar cracks me up lmao

 

[RedHawkDown]

And +30 shot, +30 compete, +10 hands, +10 vision, +10 passing, + 10-20 puck protection, +10 IQ, etc.

And +10 intensity? More like +30, at least. Ribeiro might’ve been the least intense player in the league when he played.

There are too many pluses required for it to be a useful comparison.

The point was a stylistic comparison. He plays offense very similar to Ribeiro did, but with more intensity. The cerebral play, slowing the game down when needed, lack of elite skating, all of that is very similar. There's a reason multiple people except you think it's a good comparison.

Stylistic comparisons have not much to do with how good the player is. Moritz Seider is stylistically similar to Chris Pronger, doesn't mean he's close to him as a player. On the other hand, Dylan Larkin plays very similar to how Darren Helm played the game but with a 10x better shot, and is a far better player.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

No I didn't read anything past the first few sentences because how could you? English mother f****", do you speak it?

I assume you feel smarter.

Edit: I also went to read your message history and you never used one paragraph in any of your messages. I guess you were just lazy and/or trolling.

 

[Ajex12x]

I assume you feel smarter.

And you feel the same right now? All I'm saying is if you want to make a statement, have some thought about it, not just blame and argue in a 1000 word post that nobody wants to read.

Don't worry, I think Huston and Demidiv are are good and I didn't need convincing.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

And you feel the same right now? All I'm saying is if you want to make a statement, have some thought about it, not just blame and argue in a 1000 word post that nobody wants to read.

Don't worry, I think Huston and Demidiv are are good and I didn't need convincing.

I am not trying to 'convince' I am bringing my own observation about a player I am very familiar about. I am not trying to write a book about the subject nor I want to sway any people opinion.

 

[Garbageyuk]

The point was a stylistic comparison. He plays offense very similar to Ribeiro did, but with more intensity. The cerebral play, slowing the game down when needed, lack of elite skating, all of that is very similar. There's a reason multiple people except you think it's a good comparison.

Stylistic comparisons have not much to do with how good the player is. Moritz Seider is stylistically similar to Chris Pronger, doesn't mean he's close to him as a player. On the other hand, Dylan Larkin plays very similar to how Darren Helm played the game but with a 10x better shot, and is a far better player.

He really doesn’t. And he doesn’t slow the game down all that much. I mean, he can, but he doesn’t rely on it exclusively like Ribeiro, and he actually plays with speed and intensity much more of the time.

And there seems to be quite the split on this take. Coincidentally (or not so much), most of the people who like the comparison are not Habs fans, and the couple Habs fans that do are posters who are known to play up the “guys look! Im not like other Habs fans!” schtick on the main boards.

 

[RedHawkDown]

He really doesn’t slow the game down all that much. I mean, he can, but he doesn’t rely on it exclusively like Ribeiro, and he actually plays with speed and intensity much more of the time.

And there seems to be quite the split on this take. Coincidentally (or not so much), most of the people who like the comparison are not Habs fans, and the couple Habs fans that do are posters who are known to play up the “guys look! Im not like other Habs fans!” schtick on the main boards.

That's fair, and that's why I used the poorer-skating MacKinnon in my post as the comparison.

 

[Garbageyuk]

That's fair, and that's why I used the poorer-skating MacKinnon in my post as the comparison.

Another thing is that Demidov loves to be in, and excels in the dirty areas. Ribeiro was a perimeter player who avoided those areas like the plague.

Take the two goals Demidov created the other night; those were both in areas where Ribeiro would never intentionally find himself in lmao.

I’m sorry, there just isn’t much similarity, beyond superficial stick handling style and playmaking tendency.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I might get flamed for this, but I think his best comparable is an upgraded Mike Ribeiro (hopefully without the off ice issues). Demidov is stronger on the puck, and a better shooter, but his creativity with the puck, the way he maneuvers around the ice and finds passing lanes is very similar IMO.

I might get flamed for this, but I think his best comparable is an much slower McDavid, in the way he attacks the defence, and has no fear of the center of the ice. His edge work is outstanding and his hands sublime.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I might get flamed for this, but I think his best comparable is an much slower McDavid, in the way he attacks the defence, and has no fear of the center of the ice. His edge work is outstanding and his hands sublime.

His assist was very McDavid-esque