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Got my second shingles vaccine yesterday. First dose didn’t bother me, but this one hit me hard.

Migraine, body aches, chills all within 6 hours of getting it.

Still feeling lousy but not as bad as earlier today and overnight last night.

The shot site is really sore too…like worse than tetanus.

Anyone else have this experience.
I haven't but my friends went through that, said it was the worst side effects they had experienced but it only lasted a day or so. Our own doc, who is younger and much fitter, couldn't work out at the gym for several days because his arm was so sore. Worth it though, my friend's mother suffered terribly with shingles and it was in her eyes.

I hope you feel better soon, I'm sure you will.
 
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It's a philosophical thing based on what kind of all-around formation you want your kids to receive.

There are good public schools and bad ones, good private schools and bad ones, good charter school, bad ones. Catholic schools that may lack in academic strength but teach the faith well, Catholic schools that have great academics but are only nominally Catholic because they have mass once a week but don't give a hoot about the catechism otherwise, private schools with questionable academics but strong athletic programs that feed into NCAA scholarships, prep schools with great connections and pipelines to Ivies or top level universities but have a horrendous culture and churn out socially stunted individuals, etc. And now there are even fully online charter schools which have strong education at the expense of socialization and extracurricular groups, etc.

There's no perfect school and it all comes down to what the family values and wants for their kid. The biggest thing I fear though is the state stepping in and trying to funnel everyone through the public system, because that's not right for everyone.
 
It's a philosophical thing based on what kind of all-around formation you want your kids to receive.

There are good public schools and bad ones, good private schools and bad ones, good charter school, bad ones. Catholic schools that may lack in academic strength but teach the faith well, Catholic schools that have great academics but are only nominally Catholic because they have mass once a week but don't give a hoot about the catechism otherwise, private schools with questionable academics but strong athletic programs that feed into NCAA scholarships, prep schools with great connections and pipelines to Ivies or top level universities but have a horrendous culture and churn out socially stunted individuals, etc. And now there are even fully online charter schools which have strong education at the expense of socialization and extracurricular groups, etc.

There's no perfect school and it all comes down to what the family values and wants for their kid. The biggest thing I fear though is the state stepping in and trying to funnel everyone through the public system, because that's not right for everyone.


Great way to put it. There are great public schools, bad public schools, good/bad private schools, bad faith based schools etc.

Thats why I said in my OP on this subject that after hearing about the catholic school my wife went to, I am glad I went to the public school I did. I am sure if I went to a different public school my opinion could be different.
 
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Moving to eastern, MA with no connection to a city or town we realized it was cheaper to just pay more for a house in a good school district than live in the city and pay for Catholic school. Plus, some commutes within Boston are loooong. West Roxbury to the Seaport was the same as Swampscott to the Seaport.
 
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Could be the weed but I can’t stop laughing at this

Also, why can’t we bring back the 80’s

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It's a philosophical thing based on what kind of all-around formation you want your kids to receive.

There are good public schools and bad ones, good private schools and bad ones, good charter school, bad ones. Catholic schools that may lack in academic strength but teach the faith well, Catholic schools that have great academics but are only nominally Catholic because they have mass once a week but don't give a hoot about the catechism otherwise, private schools with questionable academics but strong athletic programs that feed into NCAA scholarships, prep schools with great connections and pipelines to Ivies or top level universities but have a horrendous culture and churn out socially stunted individuals, etc. And now there are even fully online charter schools which have strong education at the expense of socialization and extracurricular groups, etc.

There's no perfect school and it all comes down to what the family values and wants for their kid. The biggest thing I fear though is the state stepping in and trying to funnel everyone through the public system, because that's not right for everyone.
You got it.

Schools used to encourage the parents in their kid’s education. Now there is a trend of stay out because they will tell our kids what to do.

Which comes back to people need to better parents. Which will include me till the day I to get to see my father again
 
Moving to eastern, MA with no connection to a city or town we realized it was cheaper to just pay more for a house in a good school district than live in the city and pay for Catholic school. Plus, some commutes within Boston are loooong. West Roxbury to the Seaport was the same as Swampscott to the Seaport.
Many years ago, I moved to my town because the schools were rated as good as most of the private schools. I could not afford a private school. I am not Catholic and was not interested in any religious school for my daughter.

The town school had lots of AP classes and was a good choice. My daughter got into one of the little Ivies from our local high school.

Every kid has different needs and interests. You just do the best you can for them.
 
Lastly, I am infinitely envious of those of you who actually believe/know there’s a god

I can’t imagine the comfort that gives you

Your friend,

Ricky Gervais
"You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart."
-Jeremiah Chapter 29 Verse 13

"Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him."
-Psalm #34 Verse 8

If you want to know. Find out. The ball is in our court so to speak.
 
Just put in a fire pit in the back yard.
Great way to get rid of all that wood scrap.

Can't wait for summer to sit out there and toast marshmallows.
(and steaks)
 
Lastly, I am infinitely envious of those of you who actually believe/know there’s a god

I can’t imagine the comfort that gives you

Your friend,

Ricky Gervais

In some ways I'm envious of people who don't; it'd be empowering to do whatever I wanted with no concept of eternal judgment or karmic retribution or whatever you want to call it. Sleep with anyone and anything, steal, lie, profit. No moral compass to tie onself down to, be out for yourself. Living life like it's the wild west, etc. But alas, the guilt and Pascal's Wager win out, I guess I'll be a good person*.

*Subject to debate
 
You got it.

Schools used to encourage the parents in their kid’s education. Now there is a trend of stay out because they will tell our kids what to do.

Which comes back to people need to better parents. Which will include me till the day I to get to see my father again
My mother in law retired from teaching several years ago after a 40 year career. Since my father in law worked for the Department of Defense, she moved around a lot and taught kids on both coasts.

One thing that always comes up when she talks about her time as an educator, is that parents over the years have increasingly given the job of actually “raising” their children to the teachers.

I asked her point blank one day, “you’re spending so much time acting as a parent and social worker for these kids, when do you have time to teach them anything? What exactly are they learning?”

:::crickets:::
 
In some ways I'm envious of people who don't; it'd be empowering to do whatever I wanted with no concept of eternal judgment or karmic retribution or whatever you want to call it. Sleep with anyone and anything, steal, lie, profit. No moral compass to tie onself down to, be out for yourself. Living life like it's the wild west, etc. But alas, the guilt and Pascal's Wager win out, I guess I'll be a good person*.

*Subject to debate


On the flip side of that if the only thing keeping a person from all that debauchery was a divine reward then that's a red flag to me as well.

Plenty of people have strong moral compasses that aren't expecting something out of it when they die.
 
In some ways I'm envious of people who don't; it'd be empowering to do whatever I wanted with no concept of eternal judgment or karmic retribution or whatever you want to call it. Sleep with anyone and anything, steal, lie, profit. No moral compass to tie onself down to, be out for yourself. Living life like it's the wild west, etc. But alas, the guilt and Pascal's Wager win out, I guess I'll be a good person*.

*Subject to debate
….dude atheists aren’t without moral compass 😂
 
In some ways I'm envious of people who don't; it'd be empowering to do whatever I wanted with no concept of eternal judgment or karmic retribution or whatever you want to call it. Sleep with anyone and anything, steal, lie, profit. No moral compass to tie onself down to, be out for yourself. Living life like it's the wild west, etc. But alas, the guilt and Pascal's Wager win out, I guess I'll be a good person*.

*Subject to debate

I dont think you have to be religious to have morals.

Having said that, let’s all not get too far into the weeds. I never ends well.
Thanks.
 
I dont think you have to be religious to have morals.

Having said that, let’s all not get too far into the weeds. I never ends well.
Thanks.
Was thinking the same. I guarantee religion does not automatically make someone a good person, same for the opposite. Kind and honest people are the best, no matter their beliefs.
 
In some ways I'm envious of people who don't; it'd be empowering to do whatever I wanted with no concept of eternal judgment or karmic retribution or whatever you want to call it. Sleep with anyone and anything, steal, lie, profit. No moral compass to tie onself down to, be out for yourself. Living life like it's the wild west, etc. But alas, the guilt and Pascal's Wager win out, I guess I'll be a good person*.

*Subject to debate

I've done all those things. It left me empty and suicidal.
Maybe what we want is not what we need?

I don't miss any of them.
 
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