It'd Be a Huge Rationally Progressive Step To Make Turban/Modified Helmets Happen

[Primary Assist]

I can‘t wait for Dallas players to be able to chose to wear a Stetson shaped helmet.

And for players on Vegas to wear actual full plate mail instead of those boring old shin pads and elbow pads

 

[Frank Drebin]

How do they feel about other people making helmets for themselves?

have a GREAT day

 

[Voight]

I didn't know a lot of this - that was really informative and interesting! You make a good point – given the risks of the turban unravelling, it's probably impractical for NHL hockey, not to mention unnecessary for all but the most religious.

It would be difficult for any non-Christian religious player to fit his beliefs into a pro hockey lifestyle. Aside from head-coverings, there are different holidays, different Sabbath, dietary limits, etc.

I would add non-Jews as well. Fox, Hughes Bros, Hyman to name a few seem to be doing fine.

 

[Lshap]

I would add non-Jews as well. Fox, Hughes Bros, Hyman to name a few seem to be doing fine.

Pretty sure those Jewish players aren't observant, otherwise they couldn't travel or play from Friday to Saturday evenings, the Jewish Sabbath. If you'd ask them, almost all NHL players would claim to have a religion, but I'd guess very few follow it closely.

Sort of related, a professional singer I've worked with for many years has sung the anthems at many pro arenas and stadiums (Bell Centre, Fenway Park, Staples Center). He's a huge Habs and Red Sox fan and loves being on the ice/field with the players, but he has to turn down many Saturday night games because, being an observant Jew, he's not supposed to work on Shabbat (Sabbath).

 

[FlyguyOX]

10/10

 

[Devilsfan2326]

Pretty sure those Jewish players aren't observant, otherwise they couldn't travel or play from Friday to Saturday evenings, the Jewish Sabbath. If you'd ask them, almost all NHL players would claim to have a religion, but I'd guess very few follow it closely.

Sort of related, a professional singer I've worked with for many years has sung the anthems at many pro arenas and stadiums (Bell Centre, Fenway Park, Staples Center). He's a huge Habs and Red Sox fan and loves being on the ice/field with the players, but he has to turn down many Saturday night games because, being an observant Jew, he's not supposed to work on Shabbat (Sabbath).

Curious question - is the definition of work more about physical exertion, or income? Because many earn income as they sleep, such as with landlords. Income with no physical or mental exertion. Could that be a breach of code, or instead a loophole?

Playing a game has physical exertion and income yes, but what if it feels more like fun than anything? A subjective feeling could be a loophole yes? I guess landlords too.

I suppose also if someone else is operating the vehicle whether plane or bus, they must still be observing right? They just happened to sit in the backseat. I don't know if such loopholes are looked down upon, or might be considered as crafty.

 

[Lshap]

Curious question - is the definition of work more about physical exertion, or income? Because many earn income as they sleep, such as with landlords. Income with no physical or mental exertion. Could that be a breach of code, or instead a loophole?

Playing a game has physical exertion and income yes, but what if it feels more like fun than anything? A subjective feeling could be a loophole yes? I guess landlords too.

Lol... there are probably a hundred interpretations for each religious rule. Here's what I'm clear on: Observant Jews won't watch TV, drive cars, use their phones or computers, etc. on Friday night and Saturday. It's a figurative and literal disconnect from the modern world. It actually sounds restful, but the really religious will walk an hour to synagogue rather than drive. So much for rest. They'll leave food in the oven, on warm, and leave the lights on so they can eat and see, so there are plenty of workarounds. As long as you don't actively turn things on or off, or actively buy or sell something during Shabbat, I think you're good. But then I wonder why they can't leave the TV on and watch throughout the day.

I'd bet everything I stated above continues to be argued back and forth by those who follow it.

 

[Devilsfan2326]

I'd bet everything I stated above continues to be argued back and forth by those who follow it.

Well yes, that is the natural progression of events for mentioning it. People read and react from all over the world. With laughs, anger, curiosity, everything. This anonymous forum is usually better for that than other places since there is less fear.

But I will bet there won’t be any more arguments, now that you expect more discussion on it. How things go

 

[winnipegger]

I dunno do we really want to encourage this. I kind of like how hockey has a unified dress code.

 

[BB79]

I can‘t wait for Dallas players to be able to chose to wear a Stetson shaped helmet.

I want one shaped like a viking helmet

 

[Leafidelity]

I think Im more interested in seeing Rastafarian helmet designs

 

[YippieKaey]

It's safety equipment. They can do religion stuff where they're not in danger. Do they wear turbans on firefighting missions, too? To war instead of a military helmet?

Sometimes, I wonder where the world is going.

A more useful way to spend money would be to teach players how to tighten their helmet straps. And how to keep their mouthguards in their mouths. Seems very difficult for some reason.

Because of headgear? Seems excessive.

 

[robsenz]

If a turban is good enough for a motorcycle legally, you would think it would hold up in hockey too.

 

[Beantown Beatdown]

I don’t mean to sound ignorant, I genuinely don’t know, but are they not be allowed to take off any sort of head garment just to wear a helmet for a couple hours? Do they sleep in their turban? I love the idea, but if the turban can be taken off seems somewhat unnecessary.

 

[Buffdog]

Seems like a niche market... not sure if anyone advocating for a new special helmet is willing to pay the R+D costs associated with it. Remember, if the design isn't 100% and someone becomes injured, lawyers will smell blood in the water

Can't see major manufacturers doing this unless the ESG rub on being a company thats at the forefront of DEI initiates offsets the cost

 

[Artorius Horus T]

What ever.

First, how about asking what they want first..
I'm 99% certain that none of the Sikh don't even think about this
nor want it. I mean, why would they?? - its not a religion without free will you know

Also, this is ice hockey, it would be impossible to execute, to make it a reality.

I don’t mean to sound ignorant, I genuinely don’t know, but are they not be allowed to take off any sort of head garment just to wear a helmet for a couple hours? Do they sleep in their turban? I love the idea, but if the turban can be taken off seems somewhat unnecessary.

Yes, Sikh are not forced to wear it everywhere. Also, not forced to wear it to begin with.

 

[BruinLVGA]

I want one shaped like a viking helmet

Let‘s do it!

 

[Oak]

If you're too religious to take your turban off to play a game then most likely you are too religious to be playing sports. Enlightened people will usually stray from sports and other worldly things. We're treading down the path of hypocrisy here.

Enough people in this thread have made the argument that wearing a patka under the helmet should be enough.