theguardianII
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The owned media is pushing all these quick fix ideas to solve a serious problem instantly and by doing so are giving the fan base the unreasonable reputation of wanting instant gratification. A juvenile desire with wild demands without thought.
The media most fans are exposed to are all employees' in one fashion or another of Rogers, the Canucks or dependent on them for revenue so they follow instructions.
By tagging the fanbase as too demanding and unreasonable they have other media chuckling at the childishness of this market. They now act like they represent the fanbase.
All the chat is how to fix this group now.
Players to trade to get better today.
No real thoughts of tomorrow or 2 years in advance.
It is time fans took their reputations back.
Sure we want a winner but we also want a Stanley Cup
As I have posted before, "Rome wasn't built in a day" and "A building is only as good as it's foundation"
I was very reassured when Rutherford stated his goal was to build long term contender not just a playoff team but really alarmed when Allvin said "fans deserve a Playoff" indicating a change of direction to merely a playoff appearance.
It might be a challenge to a lot of fans to know or look up what is in the public domain for information but media talk should not be about JUST fixing the team for today but longer term and HOW to make that work, with the cap and with player ages.
In this instant gratification media hype is ignoring on how long have been here and old some of these players are getting.
Lots of talk about them being human with human frailties but also denial of a player's desires, what drives a player. They are not allowed to lose hope and if they do they have to ignore their own deep down desires and what drove them to be who they are.
The more their contract pays the less their own thoughts matter. They are bought and served up now they HAVE to ignore their own personal feelings and thoughts, right?
Keeping the same players only keeps the same problems.
Solving the enormity of the problems instantly isn't likely they are so big and inclusive.
The leadership with a rift, the lack of depth dmen, the lack of replacement for Miller, Pettersson and Hughes, the future cap issues including possible new contracts and the age of the players. Of course there is also what a player might want.
When Horvat was traded to me it was a reward for 8 years of suffering with a losing team, he earned it even if he went to another losing team he was out from under the spotlight. I think that like coaches there is a shelf life for the intensity of the market for players especially the star performers on losing teams.
The media talk IMO should start focusing more on what there is next year and the year after. There is enough information available to reasonably guess. Things like Boeser will be gone, 8 years here and he already demanded a trade twice so reasonable to guess he would want out that and how close he is to his family. Hughes the same, he lives with his family and has said it would be good to play with his brothers, Garland in 3 years when he is 30, that might depend on the money. Demko, his injuries don't spell long term, Miller in 2 years is 33/34 yrs old, Pettersson who knows for sure. The last two because they are leadership in the room and there is a split.
Every guess I made now is based on what is known now but it is all looking at the future.
As it goes now it looks like another step back next year with bandaids attained to fool fans into thinking of playoffs or improvement. For next year the cap doesn't matter the bodies do because there isn't enough cap space to do more as it stands now.
After reading a lot of posters I do think there are more thinking about the next year, some further ahead. It isn't what they might get, it is what they have and how likely it is what they do not who they might get for instant gratification.
Now we need Rutherford to make me look foolish or maybe I don't need him for that
The media most fans are exposed to are all employees' in one fashion or another of Rogers, the Canucks or dependent on them for revenue so they follow instructions.
By tagging the fanbase as too demanding and unreasonable they have other media chuckling at the childishness of this market. They now act like they represent the fanbase.
All the chat is how to fix this group now.
Players to trade to get better today.
No real thoughts of tomorrow or 2 years in advance.
It is time fans took their reputations back.
Sure we want a winner but we also want a Stanley Cup
As I have posted before, "Rome wasn't built in a day" and "A building is only as good as it's foundation"
I was very reassured when Rutherford stated his goal was to build long term contender not just a playoff team but really alarmed when Allvin said "fans deserve a Playoff" indicating a change of direction to merely a playoff appearance.
It might be a challenge to a lot of fans to know or look up what is in the public domain for information but media talk should not be about JUST fixing the team for today but longer term and HOW to make that work, with the cap and with player ages.
In this instant gratification media hype is ignoring on how long have been here and old some of these players are getting.
Lots of talk about them being human with human frailties but also denial of a player's desires, what drives a player. They are not allowed to lose hope and if they do they have to ignore their own deep down desires and what drove them to be who they are.
The more their contract pays the less their own thoughts matter. They are bought and served up now they HAVE to ignore their own personal feelings and thoughts, right?
Keeping the same players only keeps the same problems.
Solving the enormity of the problems instantly isn't likely they are so big and inclusive.
The leadership with a rift, the lack of depth dmen, the lack of replacement for Miller, Pettersson and Hughes, the future cap issues including possible new contracts and the age of the players. Of course there is also what a player might want.
When Horvat was traded to me it was a reward for 8 years of suffering with a losing team, he earned it even if he went to another losing team he was out from under the spotlight. I think that like coaches there is a shelf life for the intensity of the market for players especially the star performers on losing teams.
The media talk IMO should start focusing more on what there is next year and the year after. There is enough information available to reasonably guess. Things like Boeser will be gone, 8 years here and he already demanded a trade twice so reasonable to guess he would want out that and how close he is to his family. Hughes the same, he lives with his family and has said it would be good to play with his brothers, Garland in 3 years when he is 30, that might depend on the money. Demko, his injuries don't spell long term, Miller in 2 years is 33/34 yrs old, Pettersson who knows for sure. The last two because they are leadership in the room and there is a split.
Every guess I made now is based on what is known now but it is all looking at the future.
As it goes now it looks like another step back next year with bandaids attained to fool fans into thinking of playoffs or improvement. For next year the cap doesn't matter the bodies do because there isn't enough cap space to do more as it stands now.
After reading a lot of posters I do think there are more thinking about the next year, some further ahead. It isn't what they might get, it is what they have and how likely it is what they do not who they might get for instant gratification.
Now we need Rutherford to make me look foolish or maybe I don't need him for that
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