Olympics: It appears Russia, as expected will not be permitted to play in the 2026 Olympics..replaced by France.

[habdynasty]

Too bad , nothing better than beating the Russians

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

What if the war ends by then?

Also, what happened to the Athletes from Russia thing?

 

[Romang67]

And do you think banning athletes that having nothing to do with this but happen to be born inside that artificially drawn border accomplishes anything at all, or is fair in any way?

Yes, I think it accomplishes something.

Sure, I think it's fair to ban Russia from participating in the Olympics whilst in the midst of a violent invasion. Don't think that seems like it should be particularly controversial either.

I'm sure the athletes will survive. They're surely aware of the political implications of suiting up for their countries.

 

[wetcoast]

True, but the precedent has been set. You illegally invade another country, your athletes can’t participate. They ignored it in the past, but if they ignore it going forward, they are hypocrites

It's more than that but its not needed in this thread, most people are aware of the differences here.

Either way the Olympics, WC and SC are 3 different things and some people have an axe to grind or not, just enjoy what you like and let others do the same, speaking in general not specifically towards you.

 

[Romang67]

How is this not “political talk” exactly

Because it's stating the reason why Russia isn't participating in the Olympics? You know, the topic of the thread?

Did you read the thread title, see the "as expected" part, and think it was because of something else?

I can add the "invasion" part in the thread title if that would help.

 

[Zirakzigil]

So please explain to me why it’s against the rules to point out that other countries doing the same things are allowed to participate?

This topic is about Russia not competing in the Olympics. Anything else is off topic. Not hard to figure out.

 

[Romang67]

So please explain to me why it’s against the rules to point out that other countries doing the same things are allowed to participate?

This topic is about Russia not competing in the Olympics. Anything else is off topic. Not hard to figure out.

Really shouldn't have been too difficult to figure out, I don't think. But there it is.

 

[Vipers31]

Too bad for the players that would deserve to be able to represent their nation and make the tournament more interesting, and too bad invading and/or attacking another people’s soil isn’t enforced more universally, making this look like at least a bit of a double standard, but in a vacuum this can’t be argued.

 

[Realgud]

Yes, I think it accomplishes something.

Sure, I think it's fair to ban Russia from participating in the Olympics whilst in the midst of a violent invasion. Don't think that seems like it should be particularly controversial either.

I'm sure the athletes will survive. They're surely aware of the political implications of suiting up for their countries.

Agree to disagree then. Not only does this set a massive double standard as already explained by many posters here, but I don't think it affects the current war or the politicians' future decisions in any way whatsoever. But if you think multiple countries, and not only russia, should be banned and that's your thought process, then I can respect it, I just disagree.

 

[Boonk]

By this logic nobody except Canada is.

Before you say “but back in 2006 Sweden won the Olympic gold!!”

Yeah, because Russia defeated Canada

Russia got 4th in that tournament. Congrats. Heres your gold star award from 20 years ago.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Good

 

[Summer Rose]

What if the war ends by then?

Also, what happened to the Athletes from Russia thing?

If I'm remembering the details correctly, that one was an IOC decision over the Russian doping situation, levied against the Russian Olympic Committee. Non-offenders were permitted to compete, but weren't officially allowed to represent "Russia" and weren't able to do things like use the flag, national anthem, etc.

This situation is entirely different. It also sounds like this decision was made by the IIHF, rather than the IOC imposing a blanket ban on the ROC and/or all Russian athletes. I say this because I found an article today, although it was published in March, stating that Russia will be allowed to send two figure skaters (one male, one female) to the games, as per the decision of... whatever the name of the governing body is for figure skating, and that the Russian Ski Federation was awaiting word on who they could send (if anyone). It also said that Russian athletes will not be permitted to compete in "team" events at either of those, such as pair skating or team relay and such. I could be wrong about all this, but it's what I've found so far when looking around today.

 

[Romang67]

What if the war ends by then?

Also, what happened to the Athletes from Russia thing?

I'd assume that as soon as France has been notified, they aren't going back on this decision, whether the invasion ends before then or not.

 

[KAWAIlllI]

Great news! For all you people saying the opposite, I’d love to hear a reason for why they should be allowed to play

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

And do you think banning athletes that having nothing to do with this but happen to be born inside that artificially drawn border accomplishes anything at all, or is fair to them in any way?

Those athletes are allowed to compete under neutral status

 

[HanSolo]

Is the Olympics really a true determinant of best on best? It’s a short tournament where the best teams can lose to a hot goalie in the single game knockout stage and be out.
7 games series shows the best. They’d nhl playoffs are the best.
Olympic hockey is fun to watch. But it definitely doesn’t always result in the best winning.
Hopefully it’s played in proper sized ice so at least the games are fast and exciting big boy hockey.

I agree in principle but realistically, teams are called to lay it all out on the line in the medal round because they only have that one shot to advance every stage. I wouldn't discredit the best on best quality entirely.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Instead of locking this, I am just going to infraction and thread ban people who cant keep politics out of it. Take that as your only warning.

Happy posting!

Reposting this because it doesnt seem to have gotten through.

Happy Posting!

 

[93gilmour93]

If I'm remembering the details correctly, that one was an IOC decision over the Russian doping situation, levied against the Russian Olympic Committee. Non-offenders were permitted to compete, but weren't officially allowed to represent "Russia" and weren't able to do things like use the flag, national anthem, etc.

This situation is entirely different. It also sounds like this decision was made by the IIHF, rather than the IOC imposing a blanket ban on the ROC and/or all Russian athletes. I say this because I found an article today, although it was published in March, stating that Russia will be allowed to send two figure skaters (one male, one female) to the games, as per the decision of... whatever the name of the governing body is for figure skating, and that the Russian Ski Federation was awaiting word on who they could send (if anyone). It also said that Russian athletes will not be permitted to compete in "team" events at either of those, such as pair skating or team relay and such. I could be wrong about all this, but it's what I've found so far when looking around today.

It seems strange that it's negotiable which athletes get to go now. I don't get how it's ok to send a single athlete like a figure skater but it's not OK to send multiple skaters to play hockey, doubles figure skating ect....

Either it's a ban or it isn't which makes this situation look even more silly....

 

[KAWAIlllI]

No, it wasn't.

If you're thinking about the truce that countries entered during the Olympics, that 1. had nothing do with encouraging peace and everything to do with the logistics of warring soldiers being in the same city competing against each other and 2. has not been followed in any way during the modern Olympics and would require Russia to stop the invasion while the Winter Olympics are going on. Which obviously won't happen.

If you're thinking about the "educating young people about mutual understanding and friendship to build a more peaceful world," a stated goal in the modern Olympics, it would seem that telling people "invading other countries have consequences" might be more fruitful in that pursuit than doing nothing.

Best post I’ve read in a while!

 

[FrHockeyFan]

The FHR posted the issue has been raised but nothing has been decided yet.

 

[FinPanda]

I'd like the see Russians play on best-on-best again soon. But I think in this current situation this is the right choice 100%

 

[Summer Rose]

It seems strange that it's negotiable which athletes get to go now. I don't get how it's ok to send a single athlete like a figure skater but it's not OK to send multiple skaters to play hockey, doubles figure skating ect....

Either it's a ban or it isn't which makes this situation look even more silly....

I think it's just the inevitable outcome of the IOC apparently not making it a blanket ban of the ROC. The international governing bodies end up making their own decisions, and aren't likely to take much consideration about what the other ones are doing, so they end up being inconsistent when compared to each other. So you end up with the figure skating people saying "one single of each only, no pairs," the skiing people saying something else, and the IIHF saying no... and then to use a random example (not saying it's what will happen), maybe the International Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation says "it's fine, no restrictions."

 

[Nakawick]

Not a fan of the 3 divisions of 4 format. Would rather 2 of 6. As for Russia, I think hockey tournaments are better with them.

 

[Moose Head]

It seems strange that it's negotiable which athletes get to go now. I don't get how it's ok to send a single athlete like a figure skater but it's not OK to send multiple skaters to play hockey, doubles figure skating ect....

Either it's a ban or it isn't which makes this situation look even more silly....

Teams represent a country. Athletes compete as individuals. Kucherov for instance, can’t compete as an individual, he has to be part of a team. If more than one country is banned, how do they compete as a team?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

"Best on best" isnt even real. We all saw Sweden/Finland were a notch below USA, and USA was a notch below Canada at the 4 Nations. Is the current Russian National Team even the level of Finland?

The All Star Game is more best on best than the Olympics, but that sucks because no one cares, whereas everyone cares about the Olympics.