Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk 2019-20 | Part II

[Finster8]

Saginaw 6-2 over Mississauga. Jenkins with 2 goals + an assist, Coskey 1 goal and an assist and Wilde with an assist. The team is playing on all cylinders with NYI Prospects leading the way. Jenkins has been looking as good as ever.
Edit- Jenkins GP-8 G-7 A-7 Pt-14, Wilde GP-9 G-2 A-7 Pt-9 +2

 

[Bill Herlyn]

Sorokin gave up 1 goal today in a 3-1 overtime win, stopping 30 shots. I guess he is a bust now!!

 

[Finnislander]

Sorokin gave up 1 goal today in a 3-1 overtime win, stopping 30 shots. I guess he is a bust now!!

*2-1.

Yea Im not sure about a goalie giving up goals. We have those already.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Sorokin gave up 1 goal today in a 3-1 overtime win, stopping 30 shots. I guess he is a bust now!!

You get 2 goals for an OT winner? They've got some freaky OT rules in Russia.

 

[Bill Herlyn]

You get 2 goals for an OT winner? They've got some freaky OT rules in Russia.

My bad, 2-1!

 

[danteipp]

You get 2 goals for an OT winner? They've got some freaky OT rules in Russia.

It is 2 goals if it is clean, only 1 if you interfere with the goalie.

 

[Islesfan22]

2 more goals for Bellows. Earth to Lou calling Lou.

 

[SI90]

Why can’t we do this on the PP?

 

[Islesfan22]

Why can’t we do this on the PP?

It would help if Trots actually put Bellows on the pp. Instead we will get bailey who refuses to shoot.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Why can’t we do this on the PP?

B/c the mother team plays in a much better league.

Anyway, hope he's one of the call-ups.

 

[SI90]

B/c the mother team plays in a much better league.

Anyway, hope he's one of the call-ups.

what does creating space, making crisp passes, and utilizing a one timer have to do with playing in a better league?

 

[Finnislander]

what does creating space, making crisp passes, and utilizing a one timer have to do with playing in a better league?

Crisp pass? One timer? Nope. Doesn’t sound like Islanders.

 

[The Real JT]

It would help if Trots actually put Bellows on the pp. Instead we will get bailey who refuses to shoot.

Trots hasn't played in 4 decades.

Looked pretty good at Butchie's retirement ceremony though.

 

[Islesfan22]

Trots hasn't played in 4 decades.

Looked pretty good at Butchie's retirement ceremony though.

Yes he did. Would be nice to have someone who not only shoots the puck but shoots it well on the pp.

 

[BelovedIsles]

what does creating space, making crisp passes, and utilizing a one timer have to do with playing in a better league?

It's harder to.

 

[Finster8]

Saginaw wins 8-6 in a action packed game over Hamilton. Bode Wilde had 2 beautiful goals including the winner, Coskey with a goal and Jenkins with an assist. Puts Saginaw 2nd in the Western Conference behind London. They are playing very solid at the right time of the year. Impressed with how easy Wilde makes plays look so simple.

 

[leeroggy]

Saginaw wins 8-6 in a action packed game over Hamilton. Bode Wilde had 2 beautiful goals including the winner, Coskey with a goal and Jenkins with an assist. Puts Saginaw 2nd in the Western Conference behind London. They are playing very solid at the right time of the year. Impressed with how easy Wilde makes plays look so simple.

But Wilde's only a 'meh' prospect to all the other teams! Over-ripen him; leave him in junior until 22, then 6 years in the AHL, then he'll be ready for sheltered minutes! Can't wait!

 

[YearlyLottery]

But Wilde's only a 'meh' prospect to all the other teams! Over-ripen him; leave him in junior until 22, then 6 years in the AHL, then he'll be ready for sheltered minutes! Can't wait!

Right because rushing him like Dobson is obviously the smart move. Not every prospect has the same development path.

 

[Islesfan22]

Right because rushing him like Dobson is obviously the smart move. Not every prospect has the same development path.

I don’t think Dobson was rushed. Lou felt he had nothing left to learn in junior as he dominated that level. Unfortunately he could not play in the Ahl so this was probably the best way to develop Dobson. He’s shown flashes of his talent but also made some poor decisions with the puck.

 

[YearlyLottery]

I don’t think Dobson was rushed. Lou felt he had nothing left to learn in junior as he dominated that level. Unfortunately he could not play in the Ahl so this was probably the best way to develop Dobson. He’s shown flashes of his talent but also made some poor decisions with the puck.

Right so he should have played in the AHL but since he could not he was essentially rushed to the NHL. Rushing Bode Wilde through the minors is not what should happen with him.

 

[leeroggy]

Right because rushing him like Dobson is obviously the smart move. Not every prospect has the same development path.

There is a middle ground, you don't recognize sarcasm well, do you?

 

[islesfan3913]

Right so he should have played in the AHL but since he could not he was essentially rushed to the NHL. Rushing Bode Wilde through the minors is not what should happen with him.

I don’t agree that this is a “rushing a prospect” situation at all with Dobson. Yes, he’s still very young and is clearly not 100% up to NHL caliber, but he’s at least shown flashes of what kind of player he can be and hasn’t looked completely overwhelmed. There’s simply been some rookie mistakes but the talent can clearly be seen. It looks more like he’s slowly learning rather than him being rushed, whereas a lot of truly rushed prospects look completely out of their element.

 

[YearlyLottery]

There is a middle ground, you don't recognize sarcasm well, do you?

I can clearly recognize sarcasm, but your original post had the intent of saying the Islanders were taking too long with Wilde which leads me to believe you've never seen the guy play. If he were to play up here he would be a turnover machine.

I don’t agree that this is a “rushing a prospect” situation at all with Dobson. Yes, he’s still very young and is clearly not 100% up to NHL caliber, but he’s at least shown flashes of what kind of player he can be and hasn’t looked completely overwhelmed. There’s simply been some rookie mistakes but the talent can clearly be seen. It looks more like he’s slowly learning rather than him being rushed, whereas a lot of truly rushed prospects look completely out of their element.

Dobson certainly has shown flashes and let me say there weren't many options for him. He was in a truly unique situation here. That being said, the NHL is not for developing players and Hickey most likely would have been better THIS season in the NHL.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt
+ Mitchell Vande Sompel (out for year)

NHL - New York Islanders

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	33	1	5	6	8	-3
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	9	0	0	0	4	-2
* Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	12	0	0	0	2	0
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	5	8	2	1	3	2	3

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AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
* Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	5	51	20	9	29	49	-18
Simon Holmstrom	RW	2019 round 1 #23	8	45	8	5	13	6	-16
Otto Koivula	C/LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	6	36	9	13	22	29	-10
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	20	0	2	2	10	-5
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112	HM	61	4	22	26	80	-15
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	GRAD	16	3	7	10	0	-4
			* San Antonio Rampage	5	1	2	3	2	-1
Robert Carpenter	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	27	4	8	12	15	5
* Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	7	48	3	27	30	16	-16
* Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	3	44	10	11	21	27	-17
		USA U20	WJC-20	5	1	4	5	31	2
Grant Hutton	D	UFA Signing	HM	54	6	14	20	31	-7
Mason Jobst	LW/C	UFA Signing	NR	43	5	8	13	23	0
* Arnaud Durandeau	LW/C	2017 round 6 #165	HM	20	5	3	8	10	-2

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ECHL - Worcester Railers

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Arnaud Durandeau	LW/C	2017 round 6 #165	HM	15	5	3	8	4	-7

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CHL - Canadian Major Juniors

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	10	Blainville-Boisbriand	32	7	9	16	14	7
				* Sherbrooke Phoenix	29	4	23	27	12	6
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	14	Saginaw Spirit	47	16	24	40	18	12
Cole Coskey	RW	2019 round 7 #209	NR	Saginaw Spirit	62	34	46	80	41	30
* Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	4	Saginaw Spirit	11	4	7	11	14	0
Felix Bibeau	C	2019 round 6 #178	NR	Quebec Remparts	31	17	18	35	39	-2
				* Chicoutimi Saguenéens	31	12	22	34	31	19
+ Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	NR	Portland Winterhawks	55	29	36	65	38	11

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NCAA

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	9	Univ. of Connecticut	32	9	12	21	26	9
Nick Pastujov	LW	2016 round 7 #193	NR	Univ. of Michigan	36	9	9	18	24	5
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170	NR	Univ. of North Dakota	35	12	16	28	18	25
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201	NR	Boston Univ.	18	2	3	5	12	-5
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77	NR	Providence College	26	0	3	3	14	5
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196	NR	Michigan State Univ.	35	0	3	3	48	0
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103	NR	Univ. of Notre Dame	35	4	7	11	14	7
			USA U20	WJC-20	5	0	1	1	4	1

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Europe

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	20	SaiPa (Liiga)	46	8	13	21	14	-20
				* Orebo HK (SHL)	10	0	2	2	2	-1

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Goalies

PLAYER	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	GAA	SV%	SO
Ilya Sorokin	2014 round 3 #78	2	CSKA Moskva (KHL)	40	1.50	.935	9
			* KHL Playoffs	4	0.73	.966	2
Linus Söderström	2014 round 4 #95	11	* Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	0	0	0	0
			Worcester Railers (ECHL)	4	4.49	.870	0
Jakub Skarek	2018 round 3 #72	12	Worcester Railers (ECHL)	14	3.73	.879	0
			* Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)	16	3.27	.888	1

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[PROMputt]

Grant Hutton with a 3 assist game yesterday(watched game on NHL network). Every time I watch him he just looks poised and steady. Really think he could be a nice find.