Proposal: Islanders - Oilers

[GrandmaSlices51631]

22 pts in 58 games for Reinhart in Bridgeport. Pulock 25 pts in 53 games with Bridgeport. HUGEEEEEEEE difference right there in production alone, right? 22 years old and hasn't found a regular spot in the NHL the same way Reinhart wasn't and still isn't able to do.

Have you watched either man play in the NHL?

Pulock is no defensive stalwart , but he's already a quality PP QB and extremely mobile.

All points are not created equal. Reinhart got some soft run of the mill assists , where as 17 of the 25 points Pulock generated that season were pucks he put in the net.

Tavares himself said Pulock reminded him of Shea Weber, those are huge skates to fill and not light words coming from a guy whose opinion well trust over yours .

 

[Taytro]

I would need to see more NHL games (half way mark of this season) from Pulock before making a final decision on the OP, but it looks well though out. If Pulock looks like an NHLer...

The Oilers can play Draisaitl as 1RW, Pitlick as 2RW, Clutterbuck as 3RW and Puljujarvi as 4RW.

I'm not sure Eberle would be of interest to NYI because of his obvious flaws but he should give Tavares as legit RW to play with. I am not sure if NYI team defense is strong enough to cover for Eberle's defensive laziness and lack of physical play, the Oiler's surely is not. Dillon Simpson is not a great add, as I highly doubt he ever becomes a regular in the NHL... a draft pick would probably be of more value IMO.

No interest in Boychuk, only because of his contract.

So an unproven winger at 1RW, a borderline bottom 6/AHL player at 2RW, a 4th liner at 3RW, and an unsuccessful, non physical offensive rookie at 4RW. None of those players are suited for the roles you put them in. It leaves EDM with 0 natural top 6 RW. It doesn't work for Edmonton.

 

[zar]

So an unproven winger at 1RW, a borderline bottom 6/AHL player at 2RW, a 4th liner at 3RW, and an unsuccessful, non physical offensive rookie at 4RW. None of those players are suited for the roles you put them in. It leaves EDM with 0 natural top 6 RW. It doesn't work for Edmonton.

I was thinking addition by subtraction, we would shed Eberle's salary and defensive woes. In the short term, we would be marginally weaker from a scoring perspective on the right side but stronger defensively. Currently, Eberle/Pitlick/Puljujarvi/Slepyshev... becomes Draisaitl/Pitlick/(Puljujarvi/Clutterbuck/Slepyshev)... basically Eberle out, Draisaitl and Clutterbuck in. I think you underestimate what Pitlick will bring to this team. Caggiula comes back and takes Draisaitl's 3C position (admittedly a gamble and likely downgrade). The number one reason we make this trade though is actually obtaining an NHL qualified 'natural' RHD... of which we currently only have 1. If Pulock can play bottom pair RHD effectively today and potentially 2nd pairing in a couple years... that's a whole lot better than Gryba. Gryba is a pylon on many nights and is stunting Nurse's development.

If the Oilers had a stronger team defence game, I would keep Eberle and manage him.

 

[isles31]

Pulock is a bust

If by bust you mean has a broken foot and that is the sole reason he isn't playing right now, then yes. He has played well when Capuano puts him in. 29 other coaches would have played him way more last season, as opposed to the superstud Brian Strait. Capuano plays favorites, and its nauseating. I.E., Thomas hickey and his 40 mph wrist shot on the PP point, as opposed to Pulock's 100+mph bomb.

 

[Chardo]

22 pts in 58 games for Reinhart in Bridgeport. Pulock 25 pts in 53 games with Bridgeport. HUGEEEEEEEE difference right there in production alone, right? 22 years old and hasn't found a regular spot in the NHL the same way Reinhart wasn't and still isn't able to do.

Don't defensemen play defense?

Pulock did find a regular spot, until breaking his foot.

 

[zar]

If by bust you mean has a broken foot and that is the sole reason he isn't playing right now, then yes. He has played well when Capuano puts him in. 29 other coaches would have played him way more last season, as opposed to the superstud Brian Strait. Capuano plays favorites, and its nauseating. I.E., Thomas hickey and his 40 mph wrist shot on the PP point, as opposed to Pulock's 100+mph bomb.

I haven't seen Pulock play much, didn't realize he had such a hard/fast shot... even more of a reason the Oilers should like this trade. Currently, we have Sekera shooting from the point on the second unit PP... it's a 40 mph wrist shot... right into the fore-checking forward's shin pads. I have never seen the likes of it, 60% of his shots do not get by the very first player standing infront of him.

 

[Sniper99]

Gross. A fourth liner and what looks to be another bust D prospect in Pulock why would we do them another favor after the Reinhart debacle?

Cmon man, I'm laughing so hard i'm in tears. Pulock a bust, never change HF

 

[Roof Daddy]

Gross. A fourth liner and what looks to be another bust D prospect in Pulock why would we do them another favor after the Reinhart debacle?

Reinhart played a whopping 8 games before he was traded to the Oilers and was immediately labeled a bust by Islander fans. Pulock isn't even a year younger.

I get the intent behind your comments (that Isles fans were quick to dismiss Reinhart as a bust the second he was out the door, but have built hype around Pulock despite the development trajectory looking similar), but there is a very distinct difference - Pulock has an attribute that grades as an A+ (his shot).

Reinhart was a guy that had hockey IQ and size, but needed to work on skating/footwork, physicality, and puck skills. There has been minimal progress.

Pulock would probably slot in as a bottom pair D on our team (as well as the Isles), but he'd be our #1 option for PP trigger man.

I would easily pull the trigger on the OP's deal. Sure it would be tough to replace Eberle's offensive ability, and RW is thin, but Pulock would be a major boon to our PP. I look at a guy like Lucic who gets prime PP opportunity, but is rendered mostly ineffective because every D man we have has a muffin for a shot. Pulock makes a guy like Looch better, and gives a bit more space for McD/Nuge to operate on the right side because the PKing forwards would have to respect the point shot more than they are currently.

I'd go as far as doing Eberle + Davidson (better all around D man than Pulock currently) for Pulock + Bailey/cap dump.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The difference between Simpson and Pulock ain't Clutterbuck to Eberle...

 

[Glorydays22]

Isles pass on this proposal.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Isles fans have trashed Reinhart long before he got traded, check any thread.

a 4th liner at 3RW

Clutterbuck is no 4th liner.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Counter:

Boychuk + something for Eberle

Boychuk ($1 million retained) and assuming that he doesn't have a NMC and Strome for Eberle and ?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Pulock's clapper would be just what the Dr. ordered for our team. Guy can definitely hammer the puck.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Boychuk ($1 million retained) and assuming that he doesn't have a NMC and Strome for Eberle and ?

Eberle + Fayne + mid pick then maybe. Boychuk even with a million retained is still a tough financial pill to swallow. Fayne would absolutely have to be in the deal.

 

[thadd]

Would have given up a lot for Clutterbuck 4 years ago. That times has passed.

 

[Otto91]

Counter:

Boychuk + something for Eberle

First Boychuk would have to wave his no trade clause....then you can have him

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Would have given up a lot for Clutterbuck 4 years ago. That times has passed.

Would you not even want him as a free agent?

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'd pass on this, simply because we are having enough issues scoring without moving Eberle. I know a lot of Oiler fans have made him the scapegoat this year already, but we need scorers, and Eberle and McDavid are really the only ones who can shown that they can score regularly without crashing the net for garbage goals.

 

[Connor]

Eberle, Yakimov, Osterle

FOR

Strome, Hamonic

 

[CupHolders]

Eberle + Fayne + mid pick then maybe. Boychuk even with a million retained is still a tough financial pill to swallow. Fayne would absolutely have to be in the deal.

Eberle + Fayne for Boychuck and Strome. I'd do even without a mid pick included.