Post-Game Talk: Island

[duhmetreE]

No matter how the "ideal" schedule lands out, it's just annoying that the Rangers are already done playing the Islanders for the rest of the season. Absolutely no reason for it.

I dont know....

I hate the Islanders but I hate watching games against them more.

 

[JHS]

I mean sure if you only want to get close for 1-2 years with this older core, sure. You want to be perennial middle of the pack teams then sure. Don’t develop anyone who can’t reach their peak on their own in 2 years. But if you want to be a top 5 team for the next decade, then develop the kids. Truth is you can’t have your cake and eat it with the kids. Either keep them out of the nhl until they are 24. Or bring them up sooner and be okay with growing pains and developing them. Zib was traded far too soon by Ottawa because they grew impatient. The kids who skate like the wind and have high end skills can sometimes develop quicker. But the bigger guys like the Tkachuks and the Hossas take longer. Buchnevich and now Gauthier are all proof that players need to become adults mentally and physically to reach their NHL potential. But development at the NHL level is a harsh reality for most top 5 picks. The fact that you can’t ever send an 18 to the minors is a problem that a younger league needs to solve. Dahlin and Tage Thompson are prime examples of proof that most players take longer to mature especially if forced to do it at the pro level. So I really don’t agree with your logic here. We don’t NEED to win this season. More than half the top 9 and top 4 aren’t even in their prime years.

You are writing as if the Rangers window is unlimited time. It’s really not. They won’t be able to keep this young core and the veteran code for much longer. Their window is 1-2 years and then a lot of the team will be different because of salary cap issues!

 

[Profet]

You are writing as if the Rangers window is unlimited time. It’s really not. They won’t be able to keep this young core and the veteran code for much longer. Their window is 1-2 years and then a lot of the team will be different because of salary cap issues!

You know how you extend a cup window? You keep drafting 1st round picks and not trading them for short term pieces that do not move the needle.

 

[gravey9]

You are writing as if the Rangers window is unlimited time. It’s really not. They won’t be able to keep this young core and the veteran code for much longer. Their window is 1-2 years and then a lot of the team will be different because of salary cap issues!

I’m aware that tough decisions lie ahead but I don’t think the next 2 years are the main window. They are the main window for Zib Panarin Kreider and trouba.

 

[UnSandvich]

You are writing as if the Rangers window is unlimited time. It’s really not. They won’t be able to keep this young core and the veteran code for much longer. Their window is 1-2 years and then a lot of the team will be different because of salary cap issues!

Nobody's saying unlimited, but it's a damn sight longer than 1-2 years.

 

[leetch99]

Agreed. It feels weird to want less hockey, but if it were up to me I’d trim the season by 10 games.

I agree...sounds like a plan . It will never happen though and if anything they likely make it a couple games longer . IMO....hockey should be completed by May30 .

 

[Larrybiv]

In Arthur Staple's most recent mailbag regarding how the players feel about their Captain:

"Few players crave that sort of responsibility. Most love it when they have one or two or three guys who go to the coach with an issue or stand in front of reporters to answer for a crappy game or say the hard things that need to be said during a losing streak.

Trocheck has done a decent job of speaking up and being a leader in his first season. Panarin has taken some strides in that area. Kreider is a beloved teammate but doesn’t want the spotlight on him all the time. Zibanejad would likely have been the second choice for captain and his voice, though quiet, carries a long way in there."

Yes thanks, I saw that. I just hope that its more of "that he is a humble/shy/private kind of person and NOT one that simply cannot be bothered.
I imagine that always having to interview as Captain, it can be wearing and there always has to be that inner voice telling you "don't say anything stupid/too revealing in which you may come to regret. Know what I mean?

 

[Larrybiv]

kakko already knew he made a mistake. benching him does nothing. it is literally what people criticized quinn about with how he would bench kakko for any mistake. and the board here CRUSHED quinn about it, but with turk it is fine apparently.

Not fine with Me, that's for sure. When a player doesn't KNOW he made a mistake, that's one thing (explain one on one, or even in the locker room), but it was obvious he knew it, so what good does it do to temporarily bench him? I am not so sure that it was a matter o GG knowing that temp benching him was needed just to get his head screwed on straight. "IF" GG knows that what was needed then, I guess we/I should accept that GG KNOWS KK better than we do.

 

[Larrybiv]

LOL!

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Is that you? or, just wondering what kind of NON celly that was?

 

[kovazub94]

I’m aware that tough decisions lie ahead but I don’t think the next 2 years are the main window. They are the main window for Zib Panarin Kreider and trouba.

Not 100% sure what you’re responding to but I wanted to say I’d like to treat both windows as equally important and so not sacrificing a chance (if it doesn’t gets away “naturally”) to go for it this and next season while the team still mainly relies on Zibanejad, Panarin, Trocheck, Kreider, Trouba generation. It’s balancing act but we’ve seen situation where a perceived window closes because of injuries, bad locker room leadership, or miscalculated expectations etc. So if the Rangers are in the thick of it by TDL Drury must act. It looks like there’re minimum two spots for improvement at RW and LD I’m not asking to through away a 1st in overpayment but it’s very reasonable to expect Drury to spend one of TWO 1sts if push came to shove. I’d personally prefer to work around the edges and use lower 2023 picks or 2024 picks or someone who he can expect not be here after this season. Either way it will be a bigger mistake in this situation if Drury does nothing because he couldn’t let go of one of these 2023 picks.

 

[mas0764]

The Rangers need to win hockey games. This dilusional take that they “need to develop” players is way off. Would you rather they just put Sammy Blais and Johnny Brod out there on the power play hoping maybe they will develop their skills or would you rather the Rangers score and win games?

The second power play unit is not as effective as the first one! Why would they play just to get better?

You win hockey games by developing players.

Blais and Brod have no skill to develop. Laf and Kakko do and should be getting all the time they need. Krav too.

 

[mas0764]

I dont know....

I hate the Islanders but I hate watching games against them more.

I hate their annoying brand of hockey in their current incarnation.

But 9 pm games against the Sharks or Flames is just the epitome of boring. There’s no angst playing against a team like the Flames even when they are good.

I’d imagine if I was a Sharks fan though I’d have a much easier time getting amped up for a Vancouver or LA matchup though.

You are writing as if the Rangers window is unlimited time. It’s really not. They won’t be able to keep this young core and the veteran code for much longer. Their window is 1-2 years and then a lot of the team will be different because of salary cap issues!

So long expensive vets then.