Being a better finisher doesn't mean a better goal scorer. Guys like Schiefele and Point consistently shoot 20% or higher but no one would argue they're near the level of goal scoring as Ovechkin.
I’ll never understand people who think this way. It’s being too smart for their own good. Your argument/assumption is that these guys WOULD score more goals than Ovechkin they simply choose not to. In which case we should investigate them for throwing games, because scoring goals is how your team wins.
They're not at the same level, they're better.
How does Ovechkin’s play impact teammates that aren’t on his line??? How does Tom Wilson lead the team in PPG if all the team does is funnel pucks to OV? Once again too many numbers bouncing around in the ole’ noggin not enough context. What you are suggesting makes not very much sense for someone who doesn’t lead the forwards in ice time this season. Or in recent history.
Dude just wants to pretend that Ovechkin sucks for having scored as much as he did when no one else could now that everyone else can score. Doesn't realize that such an argument bolsters Ovechkin's position in this argument more than it harms it. Also apparently doesn't realize that aging is a thing and is trying to compare the get up and go's of two players nine years apart in age. Even when he does credit Ovechkin, it's always backhanded.
Many goals are scored on power plays.
Always the caricature. A guy says Draisaitl is a better scorer than Ovechkin, so he says Ovechkin sucks.
Matthews only has more goals at the same age because of NHL labor disputes. In fact that’s also why we aren’t awaiting Ovechkin’s 1000th goal this season.
The efficiency goes down as you shoot more. Guys like Point would not be able to pick and choose spots if they absorbed Ovi’s volume. Drai would love to score 85 goals on 500 shots and 17% shooting, but he would have to force shots if he were to take that many, leading to lower efficiency.
Bogus argument. Matthews has missed more games than Ovechkin.
If he maintained that playstyle, he would be retired by now with no record. He just played it smart.
Ovi’s peak 2008-2010 is the second highest peak in the 21st Century behind McDavid. Keep in mind Kuch has had a better supporting cast than that timeframe Ovi. Kuch until very recently has played with 3 other hall of famers.
What you're saying is your point of view. It doesn't match mine at all. Crosby's prime outclasses Ovechkin's prime.
Here’s the stats to give perspective of the carry job Ovi pulled off:
I saw those moments and I made up my own mind.
Missed more games in which other games were still played. Yes. That’s not the point of the argument or why it’s a valid one at all. Ovechkin has had 2 additional work stoppages impact his amount of games played. How is this a thing you willingly brush aside when comparing goal totals at a specific age?
Jagr takes three lockouts, spends three years in the KHL, and plays in the most defensive era, it doesn't bother you. Yet, these factors caused the loss of 150 goals compared to the context known by Ovechkin.
