Is the Golden Knights' problem Jack Eichel?

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Wrong.

I never criticized Sabres decision, DJN21 just wrote that their hands were tied. I just argued against that point and that they could've gone against the medical team's advice and fired them.
No one likes to think their opinion is wrong but sometimes it just is. Your take was completely outlandish. The procedure Eichel wanted was never performed on a hockey player before, if you have the case by case demonstrations proving otherwise then please provide them...

The Sabres team doctors werent the only ones who were on this same page. It was reported that multiple trade avenues for Eichel were shot down because OTHER teams doctors agreed that the surgery Eichel preferred was a bad gamble. Vegas was one team that was okay with it and the trade came to fruition (luckily for the Sabres).

Buffalo for all of it's shittiness has always been known for top notch medical programs including one of the best cancer facilities in the country. The same team/program that helped save Kevin Everett after his injury was reportedly involved in the decision making with Eichel. They are doctors, they know what they are doing/saying. Suggesting a team fire their entire medical staff because Eichel demands something different is beyond asinine. That goes without mentioning other team's medical staffs felt the same. Also goes without mentioning the insurance portion of Eichel's contract...firing your medical staff to support an experimental surgery is asking for a future lawsuit insurance companies will challenge if and when it becomes a problem in the future.

You are trying to make a complex situation more simple than it is. I think I've illustrated my point enough and will bow out now and let you have whatever opinion you'd like on the subject. At the end of the day its a discussion on a message board none of us are truly equipped for anyways. Cheers my friend!
 

Jack getting subtely called out by his coach:

"Jack just hasn't been the same driving force for us as he was at the start of the year on both ends of the ice," Cassidy told reporters after Thursday's loss to the Detroit Red Wings. "The expectations are not being met from Jack. He needs to be better for us especially as we're down a few guys that create offense for us. He needs to be one of the drivers."

I wonder if they're wishing they invested their $10 million dollars in something more reliable.
He definitely was invisible most of that game against the Wings. He picked up an assist for a pass of his that went in off Karlsson's skate but that's the only time I heard his name.

As a Wings fan I don't see much of Vegas so I kinda forgot Eichel was on the roster. That's not to say he's Vegas's biggest problem, but a guy like Eichel should be feasting on a team like the Wings.
 
:laugh: The success of Eichel's surgery won't be known for years. The question was never whether disk replacement surgery works (we know it does); it was whether it would withstand the repeated trauma it will inevitably be subjected to playing in the NHL. The fusion surgery has a well-worn track record of being successful in athletes. For a recent example, see Kris Letang. The surgery Eichel got has essentially never been performed on an athlete in a contact sport before and certainly not on a hockey player. The guys who went to ~9 years of school to learn about this stuff didn't like the risks. So yeah, I'm gonna stick with my take and say the Sabres were fine following the advice of their doctors. And, again, they weren't the only team whose medical staff came to that conclusion.

Like I said, I hope it does work out for Eichel, but your criticism of the Sabres for not cutting ties with all of their doctors because they couldn't recommend what Eichel wanted is way off-base.
Except that it has been performed on athletes in contact sports, including hockey players. It just hadn't been performed on an NHL player before Eichel. Since Eichel, Tyler Johnson and Joel Farabee have both had it done
 
I just don’t think hes a great player honestly. Maybe hes good points wise, but he’s not elite. I don’t think he makes those around him better.

Watching the last Oilers and Knights game, he was terrible. Maybe he’s injured though.

Buffalo just seems miles better since moving on from him as well.
 
Just happy this isn't our problem anymore.

I just don’t think hes a great player honestly. Maybe hes good points wise, but he’s not elite. I don’t think he makes those around him better.

Watching the last Oilers and Knights game, he was terrible. Maybe he’s injured though.

Buffalo just seems miles better since moving on from him as well.
Definitely has elite player potential. Definitely held back by himself and the way he plays.

It's been the same song with him since 2015.
 
Yeah, there is some definite similarities to the times this sort of stuff cropped up in his time in Buffalo. Not sure if it is preparation or that he internalizes when things are going badly or other things.
Bingo. So much has come out of Buffalo since he left about how moody and unapproachable he was, especially as captain.
 
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Jacks career ppg is 0.94 so it's good by his standards. Maybe he could get around 100 pts in his career year if he's not past that point already.

Scoring has increased throughout the league though. There are 50 players with a point per game or more this season. His first season and his injury seasons bring his average way down. Peak Jack had 78 in 68 including 36 goals and 82 in 77.

He's 38th in points per game this season and he was 23rd during his 82 in 77 season and 13th in his 78 point season.

Not sure if he'll get back to that level of play again
 
He’s fine. People overreacting to a few bad regular season games.

He leads the team in PPG and would be their leading scorer if he didn’t miss a stretch of games.

His team is tied for 1st in its division despite a wave of injuries. That’s impressive. He’s going to be in the playoffs and then THAT is when people should really judge his impact. Let’s see what happens.
 
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He’s fine. People overreacting to a few bad regular season games.

He leads the team in PPG and would be their leading scorer if he didn’t miss a stretch of games.

His team is tied for 1st in its division despite a wave of injuries. That’s impressive. He’s going to be in the playoffs and then THAT is when people should really judge his impact. Let’s see what happens.
His team is tied for 1st for now*
 

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