Is Shane Wright development sparking concerns ?

[rsteen]

It's less about his production and more about what he's actually looked like on the ice. For a guy who was billed as a Bergeron type he certainly didn't display defensive expertise in the OHL during his draft year, and at times looked extremely unmotivated.

The tracking shows it's his weakest area, but 66th percentile isn't much to complain about especially when combined with the other aspects of dricing play towards the right end of the ice.

Is that supposed to be a good thing?

I don't know if it's good for them, but teams without playoff expectations are more likely to put their prospects in the NHL because they don't really care about losing a game off a mistimed rookie error.

As for the AHL, the sample is so wonky it's hard to draw much of a conclusion. He's not going to score 4 goals every 5 games in the regular season and a teenager with a dozen pro games thrown into a Calder Cup run isn't going to play like he's been on the team all season.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Wright is fine defensively and does a great job on that end.
What he needs to work on is his offensive and being better/more confident with the puck on his stick to get himself in better positions offensively.

He'll get to do all that offensive stuff in Coachella Valley until he's confident enough in that part of his game to get up to the NHL.

Also, like Francis said, the only spot for him right now would be the 4th line center spot and that doesn't make much sense for him and his development.

 

[Voight]

they made the right pick because they took the best player

Cooley having a few good preseasons games while not understanding how to play defensively doesnt make him better than Slaf

Yea cause Slafkovsky lit the world on fire ti his 10 points in 39 games

I think a lot of people need to realize that Wright missed an entire year of development/games thanks to COVID.

Its one thing to miss time to injury, but he wasn't able to train or even be in touch with this development people that year.

 

[Voight]

For a 4th overall pick in a weak draft, it's not a big deal.

For a guy who was Mr. Exceptional and talked about like a guaranteed Number 1 pick for about three years, it's a pretty big deal. Trajectory does matter, but it looks more and more like he was part of a weaker cohort of CHL-bound Forwards, where being the best amongst players going that route is no longer the surefired path to NHL stardom it once was (consider Canadian Forwards accounted for 41.3 % of points scored by Forwards in 2022-23, in 1989-90 that was 73.1 %). There is a lot more competition from other paths, so being the best amongst that particular group isn't enough.

CHL First Round Forwards 2022 Draft:
4) Shane Wright - Seattle
9) Matthew Savoie - Buffalo
11) Connor Geekie - Arizona
22) Nathan Gaucher - Anaheim
32) Reid Schafer - Edmonton

I think that's the bigger picture of what's going on here.

7 of the top 10 scores from last year were CHL alumni. Including 4 of the top 5.

 

[WarriorofTime]

7 of the top 10 scores from last year were CHL alumni. Including 4 of the top 5.

Did you see the Draft results I posted or no?

It used to be "the" path, now it's one of many paths. I don't care how many McDavids it produces (not many) because it doesn't mean you're an auto lock first overall anymore just because you're the best from a given year.

 

[Voight]

Did you see the Draft results I posted or no?

It used to be "the" path, now it's one of many paths. I don't care how many McDavids it produces (not many) because it doesn't mean you're an auto lock first overall anymore just because you're the best from a given year.

Its still arguably the best path for a prospect even if the UNTDP/NCAA and some of the Euro leagues have gotten better at development.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Its still arguably the best path for a prospect even if the UNTDP/NCAA and some of the Euro leagues have gotten better at development.

Yeah that’s fine it’s still a good path. My point is just people get too excited about major junior hype and haven’t learned to re-contextualize for the modern era.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

He a bum.

 

[Paulinbc]

I find it a bit concerning that a guy widely regarded as the clear #1 player in his draft class is still unable to make his NHL team and now he’s assigned to an affiliate again.

Are the Kraken trying their best not to rush him or there’s a legitimate concern his development is behind the schedule ?

Careful with that line of questioning or he’ll give you the stare down

 

[Paulinbc]

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HA HA!!!

 

[BluesyShoes]

Wright out here sparkling

It is now official, we can call him “Sparkles”

 

[MessierII]

The draft gives me 2012 vibes. Probably some good picks in the top 10 but just brutal at the very top.

 

[rsteen]

The draft gives me 2012 vibes. Probably some good picks in the top 10 but just brutal at the very top.

Not sold on Cooley or Nemec?

 

[My3Sons]

Declaring different types of prospects better or worse than each other after barely a D+1 season is incredibly foolish.

Players develop at different speeds and all have different styles and ways they impact the game. There's still a good chance Shane Wright ends up being the best player out of this draft - and that goes for Slafkovsky, Nemec, Cooley, Jiricek, etc. as well.

These kids are barely 19, give them a few years before trying to dunk on them. Although I guess if you're into that kind of thing, this thread will be fun to bookmark. I don't think I've seen a single good take in here.

Happy Birthday John.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

HA HA!!!

He looks like a young Jimmy Carr.

a Ha Ha HaAaAa, a Ha Ha HaAaAaA

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

1. He was the concensus #1 pick
2. The Habs drafted Slaf, due to size
3. The Kraken already have two good centres
4. Nothing wrong sending him to the AHL.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

1. He was the concensus #1 pick
2. The Habs drafted Slaf, due to size
3. The Kraken already have two good centres
4. Nothing wrong sending him to the AHL.

The habs weren't the only team to pass on him. Heck, Arizona picked a smaller center.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The habs weren't the only team to pass on him. Heck, Arizona picked a smaller center.

I don't think there's anyone on the planet that would take Shane Wright over Logan Cooley, objectively. Only people that dug themselves in so deep in the lead up to the 2022 Draft that they won't admit they were wrong until the very last possible moment.

 

[Mike C]

To be succesful you have to have confidence in yourself and believe that you are the best or near the best. Most athletes and musicians feel the same way, but hockey players have been trained to be humble. Saying that you knew he would never make it for having conifidence and saying what probably 75% of people felt is kind of weird. Saying you deserve to be drafted number 1 is not the same as saying talent is guaranteed.

At the time saying you deserve to be number one isn't wrong. What is wrong is training kids to be so humble and polite that every interview is just filled with tthe same old cliches that are repeated over and over. Very rare does a hockey player act like themselves and speak whats on their mind during an interview and is probabyl why hockey players are some of the most boring interviews out of ALL famous people.

This father of the milennum states that teaching my kid to be polite and humble is wrong. Please send me a copy of your guide to successful parenting. I'll pay extra if you autograph

Send it to the local prison which will be my new residence should my son ever forget his manners, sense of respect or modesty

 

[MMC]

I knew when he didn't look for another place to play when the OHL cancelled its season that he was never gonna make it

 

[LeProspector]

All these people that only follow narrative’s about a 19 year old is crazy.

Where’s the threads for Simon Nemec or David Jiricek?

Cutter Gauthier isn’t in the NHL either?

Give the kid time, this Isn’t football where draft picks are expected to make immediate impacts.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't think there's anyone on the planet that would take Shane Wright over Logan Cooley, objectively. Only people that dug themselves in so deep in the lead up to the 2022 Draft that they won't admit they were wrong until the very last possible moment.

Thats false.

I was one, and I know a few other people, who had Cooley as #1.

There were even podcasts etc from the guys at CSS debating Cooley vs Wright at the time.

Montreal also came out and said they were considering Slaf, Wright and Cooley at 1. With Slaf going 1, Nemec 2 (and would have taken Slaf if he didn't go at 1) and Cooley at 3, it was pretty clear that Arizona themselves would have been between Slaf or Cooley at 1.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Thats false.

I was one, and I know a few other people, who had Cooley as #1.

There were even podcasts etc from the guys at CSS debating Cooley vs Wright at the time.

Montreal also came out and said they were considering Slaf, Wright and Cooley at 1. With Slaf going 1, Nemec 2 (and would have taken Slaf if he didn't go at 1) and Cooley at 3, it was pretty clear that Arizona themselves would have been between Slaf or Cooley at 1.

What is false?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What is false?

Sorry I misread; I thought you meant prior to the draft that there's no one who would have taken Cooley over Wright.

Too early to be posting, I guess haha

 

[Paddyjack]

People saying Habs should have taken Cooley instead of Slaf do not realize what happened that day. Habs decided to trade for Dach (a big young centre) so there wasn't much point in going for Cooley. Hence they picked the big winger. I do not fault them for that. Should they have picked a D instead of a winger? Maybe, but we will see.

So at the end of the day they had their Centre and a winger.