Is Peter Forsberg underrated?

[bobholly39]

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1. Lemieux GP 290 P/GP 1.69
2. Jagr GP 716 P/GP 1.38
3. Forsberg GP 580 P/GP 1.28
4. Sakic GP 694 P/GP 1.21
5. Lindros GP 552 P/GP 1.17
6. Gretzky GP 362 P/GP 1.10
7. Kariya GP 657 1.07

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1. Sakic 147 GP 163P
2. Forsberg 133 GP 154P
3. Fedorov 130 GP 130P
4. Yzerman 132GP 115P
5. Lidstrom 143 GP 107P
6. Hull 130 GP 104P
7. Jagr 80 GP 102P

“The results just weren’t there”

Besides Jagr at #1 If you set the minimum GP to 50 the only player within striking distance of Forsberg’s points per game in the playoffs from 1994-2004 is Lindros at 1.14 with exactly 50 games played. If you don’t select a minimum games played you have Gretzky, Lemieux and Fleury ahead with 28, 41 and 29.

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Lindros & Jagr were at their best starting in 94-95, until about 2000-2001. Forsberg started his own prime and best years around 95-96.

So in order to capture some of their best years, let's only look at the 6 year stretch between 95-96 to 2000-2001

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PPG:

Lemieux 1.90
Jagr 1.54
Lindros 1.33
Sakic 1.30
Forsberg 1.26
Kariya 1.25
Selanne 1.24

This was a 6 year stretch where Forsberg was aged 22 to 27. And where he was lapped by Jagr by a huge margin, and also bested by Lindros and Sakic. And is about equal with Selanne/Kariya too.

Peter Forsberg is the most consistent player listed here. Good on him for keeping up his level of play longer than some of the others and beyond 2001 season, but it still doesn't mean that he was close to those guys when they were at their best. Lindros fell off a cliff (injuries did him in) after 2001, Jagr had a couple off years in Washington, Sakic was getting a bit older (32 in 2001)....but for that 6 year stretch, Forsberg isn't #1, he isn't #2, and he isn't even #3.

Yes - Peter Forsberg is overrated. He didn't peak as high as Jagr did, and it wasn't even close. Lindros also surpassed him.

 

[Hallonbroder]

Lindros & Jagr were at their best starting in 94-95, until about 2000-2001. Forsberg started his own prime and best years around 95-96.

So in order to capture some of their best years, let's only look at the 6 year stretch between 95-96 to 2000-2001

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PPG:

Lemieux 1.90
Jagr 1.54
Lindros 1.33
Sakic 1.30
Forsberg 1.26
Kariya 1.25
Selanne 1.24

This was a 6 year stretch where Forsberg was aged 22 to 27. And where he was lapped by Jagr by a huge margin, and also bested by Lindros and Sakic. And is about equal with Selanne/Kariya too.

Peter Forsberg is the most consistent player listed here. Good on him for keeping up his level of play longer than some of the others and beyond 2001 season, but it still doesn't mean that he was close to those guys when they were at their best. Lindros fell off a cliff (injuries did him in) after 2001, Jagr had a couple off years in Washington, Sakic was getting a bit older (32 in 2001)....but for that 6 year stretch, Forsberg isn't #1, he isn't #2, and he isn't even #3.

Yes - Peter Forsberg is overrated. He didn't peak as high as Jagr did, and it wasn't even close. Lindros also surpassed him.

In your opinion.

 

[bobholly39]

Are we rating his talent and ability, or his performance?

He’s universally regarded as an all time great player.

Not underrated.

I've never really seen anyone underrate Forsberg. He's one of those guys who gets a tremendous amount of respect for his ability and career.

In general, people who say he's underrated are those who overrate him and get upset that others don't agree.

Pretty sure OP has previously stated Forsberg would be a top 5 player of all-time with no injuries, for example. And because nobody agrees, he now believes Forsberg is underrated.

 

[Toby91ca]

I've never really seen anyone underrate Forsberg. He's one of those guys who gets a tremendous amount of respect for his ability and career.

In general, people who say he's underrated are those who overrate him and get upset that others don't agree.

Pretty sure OP has previously stated Forsberg would be a top 5 player of all-time with no injuries, for example. And because nobody agrees, he now believes Forsberg is underrated.

I think this is about right