Is Ovechkin the 5th best player of all time?

[authentic]

4 years of Ovi’s prime was the most exciting and entertaining hockey performance by single player I have seen, Crosby or McDavid are phenomenal but Ovi in his prime was on higher level, I don’t know were he should be ranked on all-time scale, these rankings are extremely subjective, I just know that watching Ovi in 2007-2010 was the most fun I ever had from watching NHL game

Yeah I would say he was probably the most entertaining player at his peak, especially if you take his personality off the ice into account, always giving funny answers and acting goofy instead of your typical boring responses and showing no emotion or excitement.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Well he’s coming up on 900 goals in the lowest scoring era.

While playing for one of the best regular season.

And he’s barely plus 50.

How do you even attempt to explain that without him being shit at defense?

Which by the way, his own coach Bruce Boudreau agrees.

That’s not the worst
Still waiting for an explanation as the worst you’ve ever seen, or maybe you haven’t seen much hockey.
Sounds more like an OV hater since your a Pens fan.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Well he’s coming up on 900 goals in the lowest scoring era.

While playing for one of the best regular season teams.

And he’s barely plus 50.

How do you even attempt to explain that without him being shit at defense?

Which by the way, his own coach Bruce Boudreau agrees.

Sidney Crosby's goals against per game and per minute are pretty much the same as Ovechkin's for most of their careers. Actually Sid's are worse in the playoffs.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Sidney Crosby's goals against per game and per minute are pretty much the same as Ovechkin's for most of their careers. Actually Sid's are worse in the playoffs.

Ruh oh facts.

 

[kevsh]

Of course the comparisons to Crosby are expected, and stats, stats and more stats.

I'll go with a purely hypothetical that anyone honest knows the answer to: If you took an anonymous (or not) survey of every NHL GM of the past 15-20 years and ask if they'd rather have had Sid or Ovi on their team, take the total number of GMs minus the number of GMs Washington has had in that time period and that's the number that would pick Crosby. Maybe even one or two of them, considering it's anonymous.

So at the very least, if you have Ovi in the top 5 then Sid is in the top 4. And that means one of Howe, Lemieux, Gretzky or Orr get bumped out. And that's just a hard no.

Top 10? Sure, gets my vote. And unless he really, really finishes his career strong and Sid's game goes off a cliff right now, today, highly unlikely Ovechkin tops him. And so far, about 78% of the people in this poll agree.

 

[winnipegger]

Bure, Panarin, Malkin, Kucherov and Kaprizov have all scored at a higher rate than Ovechkin.

So he's not even the 5th best Russian NHLer of all time, not to mention all the Soviet players who have never stepped foot on NHL ice.

This entire thread only makes sense if you add the 5th best goal scorer as a qualifier.

We're not talking about rate. Even mentioning Panarin in the same breath as ovi is blasphemous. Ovechkin had a better peak than any of those players and let me know how many will still be elite at their position at 39 years old.

 

[Randyne]

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[BenchBrawl]

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