Is Mitch Marner a top 20 player in the NHL?

[SeanMoneyHands]

What do you think?

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[Kegs]

It’s hard to say. I wish we just ranked according to position.

 

[Regal]

Probably not. I’d say there’s at least 15 guys I’d for sure take over him, and probably another 10 I’d lean toward taking. Top 25 maybe. Top 30 likely

 

[bobholly39]

Sicne 2018-2019 season (so 6 full seasons, + now a 7th started) he's 7th in overall points, and 9th in ppg (0.02 ppg out of 6th).

I voted yes. Consistently an elite regular season performer. Yes - still leaves to be desired in playoffs, but he's not as bad as people claim. In past 3 years - he has been 1.0 ppg in playoffs, good for 15th in league.

 

[Tralfamadore]

I'd say he's comfortably in the top 10-15 of forwards so it's more so a question of do the defenseman and goaltenders of the league push him outside the top 20.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

Sicne 2018-2019 season (so 6 full seasons, + now a 7th started) he's 7th in overall points, and 9th in ppg (0.02 ppg out of 6th).

I voted yes. Consistently an elite regular season performer. Yes - still leaves to be desired in playoffs, but he's not as bad as people claim. In past 3 years - he has been 1.0 ppg in playoffs, good for 15th in league.

No, he’s as bad as people claim and just using his playoff ppg doesn’t paint the whole picture at all. The guy is abysmal in the post-season.

 

[Fatass]

What do you think?

Of course MM is a top 20 player. He’d be the best player on a lot of teams.
What do you think?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Yes easily

No, he’s as bad as people claim and just using his playoff ppg doesn’t paint the whole picture at all. The guy is abysmal in the post-season.

Still better than AM34 in the playoffs

 

[danny90]

easily top 10

 

[bobholly39]

No, he’s as bad as people claim and just using his playoff ppg doesn’t paint the whole picture at all. The guy is abysmal in the post-season.

I'm not saying he's great in the playoffs or anything. Just that he's not as bad as people say.

No - he doesn't take over games, let alone series, or put a team on his back. But - he still has produced points. There are worst playoff performers.

I think his regular season resume is strong enough to make him a top 20 player overall.

 

[TS Quint]

Leafs will pay him like he is top 5 next contract.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Top 30 sounds fair.
Top 15 amongst forwards.

But there are too many excellent defensemen and goalies to have him top 20 overall.
Hughes, Fox, Makar, Josi, Hedman, McAvoy, Heiskenan, etc.
Vasi, Helle, Shestyerkin, Bob, etc.

 

[kevsh]

The guy is abysmal in the post-season.

He's a career 0.88 PPG in the playoffs. Not great by any means, but certainly not "abysmal".

By comparison, Nylander is at 0.80 PPG post-season and is regularly praised as the only "core 4" that delivers in the playoffs. So yeah, Mitch gets more heat than he deserves.

Top 20 player? Last 3 seasons: 99, 95, 85 points. Rightly puts him outside the top 10 but a pretty strong case for the top 20.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

He's a career 0.88 PPG in the playoffs. Not great by any means, but certainly not "abysmal".

By comparison, Nylander is at 0.80 PPG post-season and is regularly praised as the only "core 4" that delivers in the playoffs. So yeah, Mitch gets more heat than he deserves.

Top 20 player? Last 3 seasons: 99, 95, 85 points. Rightly puts him outside the top 10 but a pretty strong case for the top 20.

No, just stop with the PPG. We've all seen how he does in the playoffs and that still meager PPG doesn't illustrate how bad he has been. He's one of the main reasons the Leafs made it past the first round just once and you guys are trying to gaslight us with that PPG as if we hadn't seen him for ourselves over the past few years.

I'm not saying he's great in the playoffs or anything. Just that he's not as bad as people say.

No - he doesn't take over games, let alone series, or put a team on his back. But - he still has produced points. There are worst playoff performers.

I think his regular season resume is strong enough to make him a top 20 player overall.

He's as bad as people say. Have you actually bothered watching him? The guy is completely invisible and soft as melted butter. He's no Nylander who can still have an impact even without the puck and he certainly doesn't score or contribute in key moments.

This is why looking at stats sheets and drawing a conclusion is flawed.

 

[Kshahdoo]

In regulars? Maybe. In playoffs? I doubt he's even top100...