Is McDavid Top 10 For You All Time Already? If Not How Much More Does He Have to do?

[NVious]

Easy yes for me based on personal awards

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[Jerkbait]

Easy yes for me based on personal awards

Not even close yet...he needs to win ..great players make good teams great. To be beside Mario Wayne orr howe crosby etc he has to win ...

 

[SJinNewJersey]

No, and he's not even close to top 10. He has 773 points for his career. There are close to 100 players that have over 1000 points.

 

[filinski77]

He will 95% end his career top-10 all-time. But he's not there yet.

He has the absolute top-end peak to get there (Rosses, Pearsons, Hart, likely Rocket this year). But he's not even remotely close enough with career totals to be able to get top-10 attention in my opinion.

Even if this year is his last Pearson/Ross etc. He'll still accumulate top-10 point, goal, Hart finishes and just raw point/goals that will bring him to the top-10 category.

As of right now, he's essentially Jagr's top-end peak, but with:
-> 500 less goals
-> 1,100 less points
-> 2 less top-10 Hart finishes
-> 2 less top-10 goal finishes
-> 4 less top-10 point finishes

TLDR: He's got the peak level needed. Just needs to accumulate more high-end finishes and raw stats.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

His playoffs last year did a lot to jump him up for me, but not into the top 10 yet.

Re-evaluating when he hits 30 years old should be interesting though.

 

[tabness]

he gotta do one thing

 

[jigglysquishy]

No, I don't even have him as a top 10 centre, yet.

He's still in the first half of his career. He's likely only at like the 35-40% career mark.

After McDavid's age Crosby
* won two Pearsons
* won an Art Ross and Hart
* won 2 Cups and 2 Conn Smythes
* had 4 seasons as a Hart finalists beyond his Hart win
* won an Olympic Gold
* won a World Cup and MVP
* won a World Championship
* won a Rocket Richard

McDavid has a lot of career left to write. No point jumping the gun on his ranking. He will absolutely jump up to a top 10 player all time. But enjoy the accomplishments when they come. They will feel more fulfilling if you wait.

 

[RANDOMH3RO]

It’s still too soon to give him that honour, but he’s on the trajectory. After this season, his trophy case will look top 10 all time for individual awards most likely. Just needs some team success to start falling into place

 

[BenchBrawl]

Overall, no. At least not yet.

As an offensive prime? Yeah.

 

[vippe]

Take a good look at the other top 10 players of all time and what they've done and achieved.
Do you consider McDavid having a better resumé than any of them? You shouldnt because he hasnt.

Safe to say he has a very good shot at getting there but it's still a ride to get there.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

He has to win period. If he doesn't he will never be a top 10 player. Like it or not that's how it works. N I don't mean win as a journeymen. Has to be a smythe involved

 

[PostBradMalone]

No, I don't even have him as a top 10 centre, yet.

He's still in the first half of his career. He's likely only at like the 35-40% career mark.

After McDavid's age Crosby
* won two Pearsons
* won an Art Ross and Hart
* won 2 Cups and 2 Conn Smythes
* had 4 seasons as a Hart finalists beyond his Hart win
* won an Olympic Gold
* won a World Cup and MVP
* won a World Championship
* won a Rocket Richard

McDavid’s own regular season trophy case vastly dwarfs Crosby’s to this point, let’s be real here. I would also really love to know what ten centres alone you would have above him lmao.

 

[DFC]

I think it's just becoming so easy to project him as top 10 that most of us think of him that way before he actually gets the resume.

 

[jigglysquishy]

McDavid’s own regular season trophy case vastly dwarfs Crosby’s to this point, let’s be real here. I would also really love to know what ten centres alone you would have above him lmao.

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Jean Beliveau
4. Sidney Crosby
5. Howie Morenz
6. Phil Esposito
7. Mark Messier
8. Frank Nighbor
9. Stan Mikita
10. Joe Sakic
11. Bobby Clarke
12. Bryan Trottier
13. Cyclone Taylor
14. Steve Yzerman
15. Connor McDavid

Every centre ahead of him has won a Cup. Everyone besides Mikita won at least two. Everyone has played at least twice as many seasons as McDavid. Everyone besides Mikita was the best forward on a Cup winning team.

If McDavid pulls off the season he's in the process of doing, he will jump at least 5 guys ahead of him.

After first 7 seasons, he's third behind Gretzky and Lemieux. But everyone else continued to add and add and add. McDavid will, but he hasn't yet.

 

[PostBradMalone]

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Jean Beliveau
4. Sidney Crosby
5. Howie Morenz
6. Phil Esposito
7. Mark Messier
8. Frank Nighbor
9. Stan Mikita
10. Joe Sakic
11. Bobby Clarke
12. Bryan Trottier
13. Cyclone Taylor
14. Steve Yzerman
15. Connor McDavid

Every centre ahead of him has won a Cup.

So a Cup is the only thing that defines a player's worth? Beliveau should be ahead of Lemieux and Gretzky then.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Not today but he 99.9% will be by the time he's done. Only reason he wouldn't is a career ending injury. He doesn't even need any more individual awards (although I'm sure he will win many more), he just needs to compile the raw totals.

 

[jigglysquishy]

So a Cup is the only thing that defines a player's worth? Beliveau should be ahead of Lemieux and Gretzky then.

No. It is absolutely a part of legacy though.

He'll get there. It's not fun for anyone to be premature.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Id have a hard time taking him over all the other options out there.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I mean I guess he should be at least top 10 in scoring before being considered top 10

 

[WiLBoY]

He is an insane player but like the others have said, he has to win. His career is still too young to be compared to the others

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

It's interesting to see how little these rankings rely on actual player analysis.

"Jimi Hendrix was pretty good, but doesn't have the body of work and didn't win enough Grammys to be considered a top 10 guitarist of all time."

 

[dukeofjive]

Unless is career is cut short by a freak accident he will easily end up in the top 10 of all time.

 

[Reddawg]

He’s top 2 all time.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yes and he is making a massive push for top 5, what he is doing is outrageous

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

You mean how much more before his soul is removed and his back breaks like a twig?