Is Matthews the worst playoff performer ever?

[Kamus]

Why’d you leave out games played?

Because it 68 vs 66 which still makes Marner a higher producer…. Also I didnt want to continue to embarrass you but ok…..

Since you like stats
Ppg in the playoffs since 2011 players
1. McDavid 1.58
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29. Marner. 0.91
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33. Kubalik. 0.89
34. Matthews 0.88
The gap between Draisaitl and Matthews is 0.58ppg
which is the difference if you compared Kailer Yamamoto to Matthews

 

[Kamus]

Why’d you leave out games played?

Double post

 

[Juxta Position]

I find it more objective than unsubstantiated opinions.

Here's a stat:

Statistically, the Leafs are better without Auston Matthews in the lineup.

Leafs Win% without Auston Matthews in his career: .633%
Leafs Win% With Auston Matthews in his career: .577%

It's not a small sample size either, it's almost a full season's worth of games he has missed.

If the Leafs are serious about winning this series, they scratch Matthews.

 

[NVious]

then why not get it fixed in Germany ???

Matthews wanted to play in the 4 Nations Faceoff.

Usually you could give a player the benefit of the doubt, but Matthews has shown time and time again it's all about him, not the team.

That was just another one of his stunts, but it backfired like all of them for him, from his contract demands, to him demanding to play with Mitch, to him sitting out last year and then not saying why.

MatthEws

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

It's weird that Marner has gotten so much more shit for their playoff failures than Matthews.

Wingers have less of an impact on the game.

Marner hasn't been good enough, and has looked like he wants it too much and is basically having an anxiety attack while playing. I have some empathy for that.

Matthews just seems like a guy whose body was built to play hockey but he thinks he should be a fashion designer or something.

So when it's easy for him to dominate during the regular season without putting much skin in the game, he'll do so before hanging out with Bieber.

But when it comes time to make very real pain sacrifices? f*** that, he's gotta think about what murse goes best with his Gucci scarf.

Look at this man and tell me he’s in his athletic prime.

I can see him driving a big rig, going to get cigs and never coming back. A local greaseball business owner now, a snake oil salesman back in the day. A weary, middle-aged man, who has seen too much and hurts too much to believe the same beliefs he held to in more optimistic days. But an athlete? In his prime? No, he’ll hit a prime in number only at ages 29, 31, and 37, otherwise this man has peaked.

Probably premature, but idk if we ever see the same electrifying healthy Matthews again. I’m guessing the wrist is kinda chronic, would explain a lot.

 

[kerrabria]

Regular Season:
0.64 goals per game (0.47 EV)
0.51 assists per game (0.36 EV), 1.16 points per game
4.03 SOG per game, 7.07 Shot attempts, 57.0% Shots Thru
4.2% EV Corsi, 4.2% EV Fenwick
0.7 hits per game, 53.3% faceoffs

Playoffs:
0.38 goals per game (0.29 EV)
0.50 assists per game (0.33 EV), 0.88 points per game
4.18 SOG per game, 7.68 Shot attempts, 54.4% Shots Thru
1.8% EV Corsi, 3.4% EV Fenwick
2.9 hits per game, 54.4% faceoffs

I mean it's pretty remarkable that it's just finishing. Are there any stats readily available to compare Matthews' regular season goal totals and shooting percentage against non-playoff teams?

 

[NVious]

Why’d you leave out games played?

Probably the same reason you ignored the post where I showed how he goes from

6th in season gpg (all time)
To 51st in the playoffs BEFORE this year
To now 89th in goals per game in the playoffs

Are you drawing the line at people mocking him for dropping 38 spots this year when he already dropped 45 spots?

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

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Look at this man and tell me he’s in his athletic prime.

I can see him driving a big rig, going to get cigs and never coming back. A local greaseball business owner now, a snake oil salesman back in the day. A weary, middle-aged man, who has seen too much and hurts too much to believe the same beliefs he held to in more optimistic days. But an athlete? In his prime? No, he’ll hit a prime in number only at ages 29, 31, and 37, otherwise this man has peaked.

Probably premature, but idk if we ever see the same electrifying healthy Matthews again. I’m guessing the wrist is kinda chronic, would explain a lot.

I think you're being unfair...

He could easily be a professional bowler in his prime, no?

Cigarette dangling from his mouth while he yells "Who do you think you are? I am!"

 

[Divine]

Matthews wanted to play in the 4 Nations Faceoff.

Usually you could give a player the benefit of the doubt, but Matthews has shown time and time again it's all about him, not the team.

That was just another one of his stunts, but it backfired like all of them for him, from his contract demands, to him demanding to play with Mitch, to him sitting out last year and then not saying why.

MatthEws

This isn’t true at all. Why wouldn’t they LTIR after the 4 nations faceoff then?

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

How do you adjust goals for a single playoff campaign?

It’s the Claude Giroux Adjusted Statistics. I won’t bother you with the math, but it clearly shows that Matthews dominating.

 

[Divine]

Here's a stat:

Statistically, the Leafs are better without Auston Matthews in the lineup.

Leafs Win% without Auston Matthews in his career: .633%
Leafs Win% With Auston Matthews in his career: .577%

It's not a small sample size either, it's almost a full season's worth of games he has missed.

If the Leafs are serious about winning this series, they scratch Matthews.

They have a better win percentage every time they miss a core piece, regardless of who. It just shows the team is constructed wrong.

You start with removing and replacing the pending UFA’s. Marner and Tavares (Tavares can stay at a heavy discount).

It’s not like they haven’t tried. They offered Marner for Rantanen and Carolina was willing but Marner wouldn’t waive.

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

oh man this is an all timer

Give it away. Give it away. Give it away now.
I can’t tell if he’s a kingpin or a pauper.

 

[elmaco]

delete

 

[elmaco]

Matthews wanted to play in the 4 Nations Faceoff.

Usually you could give a player the benefit of the doubt, but Matthews has shown time and time again it's all about him, not the team.

That was just another one of his stunts, but it backfired like all of them for him, from his contract demands, to him demanding to play with Mitch, to him sitting out last year and then not saying why.

MatthEws

To be fair that was a NHL made event and other players also made sacrifices to play there.

 

[Kamus]

They have a better win percentage every time they miss a core piece, regardless of who. It just shows the team is constructed wrong.

You start with removing and replacing the pending UFA’s. Marner and Tavares (Tavares can stay at a heavy discount).

It’s not like they haven’t tried. They offered Marner for Rantanen and Carolina was willing but Marner wouldn’t waive.

Since you like stats and ignore posts


This year playoffs
Matthews is 31st in ppg and tied for 95th in +\-

I’m sure you will ignore all the other stats that I posted…. But of course you are a stats guy.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

thus 34 is a god until he leaves the team

Yup you just know all these posters rabidly defending him are gonna be dogging him as soon as he’s traded or leaves in FA

 

[Number8]

I think you have to look at in perspective of how the team is structured as well.

Leafs have 40 odd Million tied up in Tavares, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. By definition, with that heavy top you HAVE to get scoring or production from all 4.

Nylander’s been very good.
Marner has been good at times, then a total bonehead.
Tavares has been ok. Pretty pedestrian.

Matthews? Well. Back to the thread. He’s not a guy that seems able to rise to the level of pressure and excitement of playing in the Playoffs. He certainly doesn't demonstrate that sheer will to win that other stars in the League tap into this time of year.

 

[sampollock]

Maybe he didn’t want season ending surgery?

so have it now and be done for next season? or part of it?

 

[sampollock]

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Look at this man and tell me he’s in his athletic prime.

I can see him driving a big rig, going to get cigs and never coming back. A local greaseball business owner now, a snake oil salesman back in the day. A weary, middle-aged man, who has seen too much and hurts too much to believe the same beliefs he held to in more optimistic days. But an athlete? In his prime? No, he’ll hit a prime in number only at ages 29, 31, and 37, otherwise this man has peaked.

Probably premature, but idk if we ever see the same electrifying healthy Matthews again. I’m guessing the wrist is kinda chronic, would explain a lot.

nostrils at this best

 

[NVious]

This isn’t true at all. Why wouldn’t they LTIR after the 4 nations faceoff then?

So what's the other explanation? He's just a total idiot?

Isn't your whole point "oh he's hurt, he needs mulligan 9," so now he's not hurt?

He put his country over his team, which is fine, it happens. If only he ever put the team over himself before that which he never did.

Fans can deal with greed, they can deal with losers, they can deal with soft players, they can deal with underperformers. Matthews somehow manages to tick all the boxes, not enough he's greedy, soft and a loser, he has literally never had a spectacular performance in the playoffs.

0 hat tricks in 66 games when he averages 1 every 48 games in the season. Led one of the most abysmal pps in elimination games (0/30).

 

[Mr Nogatco]

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Look at this man and tell me he’s in his athletic prime.

I can see him driving a big rig, going to get cigs and never coming back. A local greaseball business owner now, a snake oil salesman back in the day. A weary, middle-aged man, who has seen too much and hurts too much to believe the same beliefs he held to in more optimistic days. But an athlete? In his prime? No, he’ll hit a prime in number only at ages 29, 31, and 37, otherwise this man has peaked.

Probably premature, but idk if we ever see the same electrifying healthy Matthews again. I’m guessing the wrist is kinda chronic, would explain a lot.

Terrible lighting, not very impressed with this Cole Burston.

 

[Divine]

So what's the other explanation? He's just a total idiot?

Isn't your whole point "oh he's hurt, he needs mulligan 9," so now he's not hurt?

He put his country over his team, which is fine, it happens. If only he ever put the team over himself before that which he never did.

Fans can deal with greed, they can deal with losers, they can deal with soft players, they can deal with underperformers. Matthews somehow manages to tick all the boxes, not enough he's greedy, soft and a loser, he has literally never had a spectacular performance in the playoffs.

0 hat tricks in 66 games when he averages 1 every 48 games in the season. Led one of the most abysmal pps in elimination games (0/30).

I’ve already answered this, read it.

 

[NVious]

I’ve already answered this, read it.

So now explain his 6th all time to 51st all time in the playoffs gpg drop BEFORE this year.

 

[Divine]

so have it now and be done for next season? or part of it?

You seem to know more about his injury than everyone else.

So what is it?

 

[Juxta Position]

They have a better win percentage every time they miss a core piece, regardless of who. It just shows the team is constructed wrong.

You start with removing and replacing the pending UFA’s. Marner and Tavares (Tavares can stay at a heavy discount).

It’s not like they haven’t tried. They offered Marner for Rantanen and Carolina was willing but Marner wouldn’t waive.

Then why are they playing? if that formula is well known, sit one or a couple of them. winning is more important than their ego's.