Is Matthews the worst playoff performer ever?

[WetcoastOrca]

AM34 has so much real estate in some peoples brains lol

Yep. He’s getting roasted on the Leafs board too.

 

[BB79]

When the Bruins had the Leafs last year in the playoffs, there was a question among us of which of the core 4 Leafs we'd take, I immediately said Nylander. He shows more leadership than the others, and look where he is in these playoffs- 6-9-15.

That said, Matthews has 10 points in 10 games these playoffs, 58 points in 65 career playoff games. Not bad at all. I would imagine he gets the most smothering coverage defensively that opponents can offer, and I think a lot of people on here expect him to be chasing McDavid on his heels as well, which is a tall order for anyone.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

AM34 has so much real estate in some peoples brains lol

People keep saying this like it’s weird to talk about one of the leagues highest paid player underperforming on a hockey forum

 

[WetcoastOrca]

When the Bruins had the Leafs last year in the playoffs, there was a question among us of which of the core 4 Leafs we'd take, I immediately said Nylander. He shows more leadership than the others, and look where he is in these playoffs- 6-9-15.

That said, Matthews has 10 points in 10 games these playoffs, 58 points in 65 career playoff games. Not bad at all. I would imagine he gets the most smothering coverage defensively that opponents can offer, and I think a lot of people on here expect him to be chasing McDavid on his heels as well, which is a tall order for anyone.

I don’t think many expect him to be chasing McDavid. But it’s not unreasonable to expect him to be at least close to the same tier of Drai, McKinnon and Kucherov. He’s not even close.

 

[sampollock]

AM34 has so much real estate in some peoples brains lol

and his nostrils

 

[sampollock]

Yep. He’s getting roasted on the Leafs board too.

wow
fans here say that is only non leaf fans. hmmmmmmm

 

[robertmac43]

People keep saying this like it’s weird to talk about one of the leagues highest paid player underperforming on a hockey forum

Its just so over done. 'Is he the most overrated player ever' is 'the worst playoff performer ever'. He isn't either of those things.

Does he need to put the puck in the net....Yeah obviosuly.

Has he played well outside of scoring and impacted the game positively for Toronto? Also yes..

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It’s just so over done. 'Is he the most overrated player ever' is 'the worst playoff performer ever'. He isn't either of those things.

A lot of people disagree with you it seems

 

[robertmac43]

A lot of people disagree with you it seems

Lots of internet hyperbole.

 

[Summer Rose]

Its just so over done. 'Is he the most overrated player ever' is 'the worst playoff performer ever'. He isn't either of those things.

Does he need to put the puck in the net....Yeah obviosuly.

Has he played well outside of scoring and impacted the game positively for Toronto? Also yes..

A lot of people disagree with you it seems

Lots of internet hyperbole.

Pretty much. It's one of those cases where the truth lies somewhere in the middle, between these two hyperboles.

 

[TD Charlie]

The funny thing is, a couple great showings here would just about erase all of that reputation.

 

[sampollock]

The funny thing is, a couple great showings here would just about erase all of that reputation.

he would need to be way then a couple to erase the past how many playoff years.

 

[TD Charlie]

he would need to be way then a couple to erase the past how many playoff years.

IDK. Getting Toronto to their first ECF in how long? 20 something years is it?

It's Toronto. They'd go nuts over it. That factors in IMO.

 

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

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Bro is too f***ing ugly to be taking pictures like this.

Dude, you're not David Beckham.

 

[FerrisRox]

I would rank Marner ahead in playoff performance and I have seen almost all of their playoff games the past 7 years.

I certainly wouldn't.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

No, there was actually this european guy back in the 80s, but beside that.....

 

[CupsOverCash]

Lack of goals is something people can point to and that is how he got his money. He kind of has to come up with some big goals going forward if he wants to avoid criticism.

 

[Cup Or Bust]

Joe Thornton has ghastly playoff stats for a player that scored 1500 points in the NHL. Especially considering how consistently good the Sharks were during that period of time.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The funny thing is, a couple great showings here would just about erase all of that reputation.

Define "a couple of great showings".

Matthews has earned his reputation based on his CAREER work up to this point. So him having a dominant couple of games to end this series doesn't change that. He'd need to actually have a dominant playoff run where he plays at a "otherwordly" level before his reputation changes.

For instance, Matthews scores a hattrick tonight but the Leafs still lose the series, his reputation doesn't change. Matthews goes on to lead the league in playoff goal scoring en route to the Leafs first Cup since '67 does.

 

[winnipegger]

When I remember Matthews from 2017 to last year I remember a guy with a shot that didn't even seem real. Something obviously changed because he's not ripping goals from distance anymore. He's missing the net constantly. This is why Ovis record is going to be impossible to beat. Ovi still has his shot at 39 while losing most other attributes. Matthews still has other attributes but seems to have lost his shot.

 

[RevengeOfTheDrai]

Matthews has been underwhelming, but winning a cup while your star is underwhelming has been done before. Crosby was absolutely terrible during the 2016 championship run, averaging below 0.8 ppg, a massive drop from his 1.06 ppg average in the regular season and the Penguins still won because everyone else stepped up. Matthews so far has been better than Crosby during that 2016 run. We’ll see if the Leafs get the goaltending and scoring from other lines to bail out Matthews like Crosby has been bailed out time and time again.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Worst ever seems extreme.

 

[FerrisRox]

Joe Thornton has ghastly playoff stats for a player that scored 1500 points in the NHL. Especially considering how consistently good the Sharks were during that period of time.

Joe Thornton made the playoffs 19 times in his Hall of Fame career.

He produced at over a point-a-game in the playoffs in zero of those 19 years.

That's staggering.

I still can't fathom why Kyle Dubas thought Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton were good veterans for his young core to learn from. It was just a staggeringly stupid decision. I swear he sometimes did things becuase everybody told him those were the wrong things to do.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

People keep saying this like it’s weird to talk about one of the leagues highest paid player underperforming on a hockey forum

 

[sampollock]

Bro is too f***ing ugly to be taking pictures like this.

Dude, you're not David Beckham.

Justin B will borrow him a fur coat