Is Leon Draisaitl Gonna Break Nathan Mackinnons HART

[McFlyingV]

Some unbelievable highlights from last night. Both sides of the puck. Guy is on a different level this year, if only he had wingers who could score


How about Rantanen, Necas or Makar? Or do they not count? You realize Draisaitl is outscoring McDavid by 16 points?

He's also leading the league in Goals, PPG, EV Goals and GWG. He's better than 34 has ever been and you're in here trying to discredit him because 34 isn't playing well this season.

Also 2nd in 5v5 goals (Mack is 73rd) and 1st in 5v5 points (Mack is 3rd, or 5th if you look at per game). Drai has been an absolute menace.

 

[K1900L]

There is a notable lack of elite goalscorers this year. It will be a good Rocket win but not one that stands out from the Rocket wins in the past four to five years.

This would just make Draisaitl's Rocket even more impressive, in my opinion.

When Matthews reached the 60 in 21-22, there were 3 players with 50 goals, the closest being Draisaitl with 55. There were 5 players within a 15 goal gap behind Matthews, 13 players who scored 40-49 goals.
When Matthews reached the 60+ in 23-24, there were 3 players with 50 goals as well, but only 2 within a 15 goal gap. However, there were 16 players who scored at least 40 goals that year.
When McDavid reached the 60+ in 22-23, there was one player who had 60+, three additional 50+ goal scorers and 14 players with at least 40, but less than 50 goals.

Should Draisaitl reach the 60+, there is a very high possibility that there won't even be one (!) player within a gap of 15 goals, let alone one player cracking the 50. There might not even be more than five or so 40+ goal scorers this year.

Athletice greatness is the distance between a player and his peers.
This would make Draisaitl's scoring-game this year one of the greatest in NHL-history mathematically.

 

[daver]

There is a notable lack of elite goalscorers this year. It will be a good Rocket win but not one that stands out from the Rocket wins in the past four to five years.

This would just make Draisaitl's Rocket even more impressive, in my opinion.

When Matthews reached the 60 in 21-22, there were 3 players with 50 goals, the closest being Draisaitl with 55. There were 5 players within a 15 goal gap behind Matthews, 13 players who scored 40-49 goals.
When Matthews reached the 60+ in 23-24, there were 3 players with 50 goals as well, but only 2 within a 15 goal gap. However, there were 16 players who scored at least 40 goals that year.
When McDavid reached the 60+ in 22-23, there was one player who had 60+, three additional 50+ goal scorers and 14 players with at least 40, but less than 50 goals.

Should Draisaitl reach the 60+, there is a very high possibility that there won't even be one (!) player within a gap of 15 goals, let alone one player cracking the 50. There might not even be more than five or so 40+ goal scorers this year.

Athletice greatness is the distance between a player and his peers.
This would make Draisaitl's scoring-game this year one of the greatest in NHL-history mathematically.

It just shows that the other rocket threats, Matthews, Pasta, McDavid etc. are having off years. It will not be any better than the last three Rocket wins.

 

[Video Nasty]

There is a notable lack of elite goalscorers this year. It will be a good Rocket win but not one that stands out from the Rocket wins in the past four to five years.

Same person tells us that Crosby’s 2013-2014 season is one of the most dominant Art Rosses ever.

 

[Realgud]

It just shows that the other rocket threats, Matthews, Pasta, McDavid etc. are having off years. It will not be any better than the last three Rocket wins.

I'm not sure I understand your logic. So if someone wins the Rocket with 60 goals and second place has 59, to you that is more impressive than someone who wins with 60 goals with second place having let's say 45 goals? I'd like for you to explain that one. Maybe you have your reasons.

 

[PaulD]

Could be.
But he is hands down the top sniper in the NHL.
Goalies worst nightmare.

 

[daver]

I'm not sure I understand your logic. So if someone wins the Rocket with 60 goals and second place has 59, to you that is more impressive than someone who wins with 60 goals with second place having let's say 45 goals? I'd like for you to explain that one. Maybe you have your reasons.

Matthews' 69 goals, McDavid's 64 goals, and Matthews' 60 goals in 73 games > Draisaitl's potential 60 in 82 games.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Matthews' 69 goals, McDavid's 64 goals, and Matthews' 60 goals in 73 games > Draisaitl's potential 60 in 82 games.

But not as impressive as draisaitls 7 100 point seasons with 40 goals each. Lol

 

[Regal]

This would just make Draisaitl's Rocket even more impressive, in my opinion.

When Matthews reached the 60 in 21-22, there were 3 players with 50 goals, the closest being Draisaitl with 55. There were 5 players within a 15 goal gap behind Matthews, 13 players who scored 40-49 goals.
When Matthews reached the 60+ in 23-24, there were 3 players with 50 goals as well, but only 2 within a 15 goal gap. However, there were 16 players who scored at least 40 goals that year.
When McDavid reached the 60+ in 22-23, there was one player who had 60+, three additional 50+ goal scorers and 14 players with at least 40, but less than 50 goals.

Should Draisaitl reach the 60+, there is a very high possibility that there won't even be one (!) player within a gap of 15 goals, let alone one player cracking the 50. There might not even be more than five or so 40+ goal scorers this year.

Athletice greatness is the distance between a player and his peers.
This would make Draisaitl's scoring-game this year one of the greatest in NHL-history mathematically.

No it would just mean other top players didn’t do as well. The league hasn’t suddenly drastically changed since last year. It would be like saying Kucherov’s season last year was a weak Art Ross year because he only beat MacKinnon by 4 points.

 

[Regal]

I'm not sure I understand your logic. So if someone wins the Rocket with 60 goals and second place has 59, to you that is more impressive than someone who wins with 60 goals with second place having let's say 45 goals? I'd like for you to explain that one. Maybe you have your reasons.

If scoring levels are the same, it’s 60 goals regardless. Whether or not another player does similarly well doesn’t take away or add to his feat. Once you get to the 5th, 10th, etc place goalscorers, his lead is not much different than the last couple years. His point wasn’t that that the other usual Richard threats having down seasons makes it worse, but that it doesn’t make it better.

 

[authentic]

Yeah they are really close...both great players...but just for fun...MacK without Makar 5v5, xGF% 48,36.
Drai without McD 5v5, xGF% 56,33%
That's the difference...and keep in mind, MacK has at minimum Rantanen/Necas while Drai played tonight with Perry/Brown and Podkolzin/RV as his regular line mates...

Offensive zone starts MacK:71,5% to Drai 61%.
Drai is often used in defensive situations, that's nothing major but it's noticeable.

Also Drai with 12 more takeaways and 20 less giveaways...that's a difference of 32 possessions...that's huge.
(Just for Info and not related: Makar with great takeaway numbers and Bouch with lots of giveaways).

Actually that’s a pretty solid case for Draisaitl when they’re this close.

 

[psycat]

This would just make Draisaitl's Rocket even more impressive, in my opinion.

When Matthews reached the 60 in 21-22, there were 3 players with 50 goals, the closest being Draisaitl with 55. There were 5 players within a 15 goal gap behind Matthews, 13 players who scored 40-49 goals.
When Matthews reached the 60+ in 23-24, there were 3 players with 50 goals as well, but only 2 within a 15 goal gap. However, there were 16 players who scored at least 40 goals that year.
When McDavid reached the 60+ in 22-23, there was one player who had 60+, three additional 50+ goal scorers and 14 players with at least 40, but less than 50 goals.

Should Draisaitl reach the 60+, there is a very high possibility that there won't even be one (!) player within a gap of 15 goals, let alone one player cracking the 50. There might not even be more than five or so 40+ goal scorers this year.

Athletice greatness is the distance between a player and his peers.
This would make Draisaitl's scoring-game this year one of the greatest in NHL-history mathematically.

But it's just random, if (say) Pastrnak had a good year and would be within 5-10-15(whatever) goals would that somehow make Draisaitl's season less impressive? Makes zero sense.