Is Jon Cooper on the hot seat?

[Three On Zero]

Now that the Bolts are eliminated I'll say this - I don't think it's Cooper that needs to go. Seems like a revamp of the assistant coaches is in order though.

Funny thing is that I said maybe just a couple hours ago that I wouldn't mind giving Jeff Halpern a spin. Now I'd rather launch him into the sun.

Cooper isn't an issue, they are just running a roster that was constructed and won 2 cups within the last 5 years. Cooper hasn't lost the room, they just need a bit of a quick retool with the rising cap.

 

[Master P]

Larry Brooks?

 

[centipede2233]

I put more blame on vasilevsky and wonder if JBB will move vasi for a lower cap goalie. Vasi’s last 3 playoff years GSAE, -2.4, 1.3, -3.1. Not exactly 9.5 million dollars money worth

 

[Pablo El Perro]

No

 

[More 2004]

coop isnt going anywhere unless he wants to go somewhere..

 

[BHD]

With all due respect to Tourigny, you move on from him to bring in a guy like Cooper.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I put more blame on vasilevsky and wonder if JBB will move vasi for a lower cap goalie. Vasi’s last 3 playoff years GSAE, -2.4, 1.3, -3.1. Not exactly 9.5 million dollars money worth

He's most likely done, they already won so he probably doesn't have the hunger anymore + back surgery usually ends goalies careers. It derailed Quick for a very long time and he just got back to decent seasons and he's doing it as a backup.

 

[centipede2233]

He's most likely done, they already won so he probably doesn't have the hunger anymore + back surgery usually ends goalies careers. It derailed Quick for a very long time and he just got back to decent seasons and he's doing it as a backup.

I think they try to move him. jBB has proven he will do whatever it takes, and vasi isn’t pulling his caphit anymore. See if he can find a sucker

 

[CupsOverCash]

No they don't need to overreact to losing to a strong fl team. However they aren't far off either with their talent. They just need some complimentary pieces to make it work.

 

[SharksFan1992]

No. His team's window is just closing. If he leaves, it's on his own terms.

 

[Osprey]

The Kings fired Darryl Sutter after 3 straight disappointing seasons, even though they followed 3 wildly successful ones. Ask Kings fans how the 8 years since have worked out for them.

 

[jetsforever]

He probably is just because he's been around so long, but I could see it go either way.

 

[Avs2022]

I doubt either Bednar or Cooper are gone despite all this discussion.

Cooper should not be fired after today. If the Avs lose in round 1, Bednar should be fired before the post game starts.

 

[eojsmada]

Cooper calls his own shot if he wants to stay or not. Would take a monumental blunder or for he and Brisebois to get into a public feud for him to get fired. And even then, the ownership might sack Brisebois before Cooper.

 

[Summer Rose]

Cooper calls his own shot if he wants to stay or not. Would take a monumental blunder or for he and Brisebois to get into a public feud for him to get fired. And even then, the ownership might sack Brisebois before Cooper.

Speaking of Brisebois, he's actually the one whose seat should at least be a little warm after three straight first round exits, not Cooper. I wouldn't fire him right now, but if he doesn't get his shit together next season, he should be gone.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Please fire him. He can come to LA.

 

[The Panther]

12.5 years in Tampa. Think about that. When he first came behind the bench, Marty St. Louis was the Art Ross winner, Montreal and Vancouver were in 1st place, and Chicago was the Cup champ. Sami Salo and Vincent Lecavalier were still playing for Tampa....

It's quite a run. I think Cooper is one of the smartest hockey guys out there and is the least of the Lightning's "problems"; more like, he's their greatest strength.

Anyone know how much coin he's pocketed in these 12.5 years?

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Please fire him. He can come to LA.

Yes, please. Tampa can hire Hiller. That would be great.

 

[Crunchrulz]

I put more blame on vasilevsky and wonder if JBB will move vasi for a lower cap goalie. Vasi’s last 3 playoff years GSAE, -2.4, 1.3, -3.1. Not exactly 9.5 million dollars money worth

Tampa's contract goaltenders in Syracuse of the AHL just shared best AHL goaltenders GAA with the Montreal duo in Laval. Halverson literally carried the Crunch on his back as the best goalie in the AHL first two months of the season, which earned him an NHL contract with Tampa Bay.

 

[Summer Rose]

12.5 years in Tampa. Think about that. When he first came behind the bench, Marty St. Louis was the Art Ross winner, Montreal and Vancouver were in 1st place, and Chicago was the Cup champ. Sami Salo and Vincent Lecavalier were still playing for Tampa....

It's quite a run. I think Cooper is one of the smartest hockey guys out there and is the least of the Lightning's "problems"; more like, he's their greatest strength.

Anyone know how much coin he's pocketed in these 12.5 years?

I was interested to know the answer to his career earnings as the head coach of the Tampa Bay Lightning, but I couldn't find anything stating the total. The only sources I found are that his salary for his contract that ran through this season, which was a three-year contract, had a salary of $5.3 million per year. Couldn't find any information on his one-year extension that covers next season, nor any information about his previous salaries. One article did state that his net worth is estimated to be $15 million, which I found interesting albeit slightly unrelated.

A lot of the search results I was looking through were muddled up by information about Jonathan Cooper, a retired NFL guard who last played for the then-Oakland Raiders in 2019.

I don't believe the NHL has ever had any sort of requirement to disclose the contract terms of their coaching staff, since their compensation has nothing to do with the salary cap, and it seems like it would be less likely to leak because I doubt it's the kind of information that appeals to more than just a handful of people (such as you and me). A mild tangent is that I always found it amusing that whenever the Coyotes announced the signing of a player to a new contract or an extension, the official announcement always included the phrase "as per club policy, the terms of the contract were not disclosed" (I think now that they're in Utah they have the same policy). Then the contract terms would leak within an hour or two anyway, so I'm not sure why they bothered with that policy.

 

[Leafshater67]

I doubt either Bednar or Cooper are gone despite all this discussion.

Neither probably go but the avs are in the middle of their window with 2 top 5 players and only have 1.

 

[Son of Nogatco]

The issue IS the amount of Cap Space tied up in the core players who have failed to live up to those contracts over the past three postseasons. With the amount they have tied up in underperforming, aging fan favorites, they are unable to sign the same quality of bottom six players they used to have.

aren’t most of those guys signed to pretty team friendly deals?

In addition, the farm system talent is level is far below what it used to be, having been used to achieve the success of the back-to-back Championships.

Kind of a copout to chalk it up to the price of winning cups when they traded a whole draft’s worth of picks for tanner jeannot and IIRC have burnt draft capital for some other TDL acquisitions that didn’t work out.

Not to mention botching the handling of Howard

 

[Stelio Kontos]

12.5 years in Tampa. Think about that. When he first came behind the bench, Marty St. Louis was the Art Ross winner, Montreal and Vancouver were in 1st place, and Chicago was the Cup champ. Sami Salo and Vincent Lecavalier were still playing for Tampa....

It's quite a run. I think Cooper is one of the smartest hockey guys out there and is the least of the Lightning's "problems"; more like, he's their greatest strength.

Anyone know how much coin he's pocketed in these 12.5 years?

Greatest strength lol Tampas greatest strength is having an aggressive GM & 3 hall of famers at key positions get real. Tampa has had stacked roster from 2018 on.. won two cups with rosters that were over the cap and significantly better than everyone else during Covid... bolts would of won with my grandmother behind the bench in 20 & 21.

Same people saying keep cooper he’s untouchable are the same ones who thought Tampa bay was a contender this year.. out of tune and don’t watch the lightning nearly enough to see what actually goes on
Shame

 

[GoldenSeal]

Lol, absolutely not.

 

[HanSolo]

Neither probably go but the avs are in the middle of their window with 2 top 5 players and only have 1.

Just highlights that it's hard to win just one cup, much less multiple. There was a point the Lightning were the indisputable best team in the league, just a wagon. That came and went and they have two to show for it in that stretch. Which falls short of the Pittsburgh/Chicago pseudo dynasties we had not too long ago.

The reality is Tampa just isn't as deep anymore and most of their best players got too old or are out of their primes. So I don't see how you improve on Cooper honestly.

With Colorado, I think it's a similar story. They have some elite talent interspersed with some pretty good players, but there's some weakness in that lineup. I don't really see how you improve on Bednar if you're Colorado. Maybe Sullivan could leverage one more cup win with the right conditions and strong goaltending, but otherwise who are they replacing him with? Quenneville? Woodcroft? I don't see how either guy is anything more than a lateral move at best. At 66 going on 67, I really doubt Q has the special stuff to become the first coach in many decades to win a cup with a subsequent team and that's before you get to the underlying controversy that could prove to be a distraction.