Is John Tavares starting to slip?

[jcs0218]

Is John Tavares starting to slip?

Current statistics are:

Games = 40
Goals = 12
Assists = 22
Points = 34

His 34 points are 68th in league scoring.

He is the 7th highest-paid player in the NHL.

 

[MNRube]

He’s been around PPG his entire time as a TML. One good game and he’s right back to that pace, so this feels premature

 

[KevinRedkey]

Everyone known he's overpaid. That has nothing to do with whether he's slipping or not. It's just a jab at him (or the Leafs) for no good reason.

He's on pace for 70 points, and most people probably had him pegged at around 75-ish. I don't think that's a slip - but eevn if you think it is - it's not a threadworthy one. If he ends the season with 65pts over a full season, then we can start talking...

 

[Divine]

Compared to what? He's basically the same player he's always been.

He's 33 years old and his contract ends next year so I imagine at some point he'll decline. A 70+ point season is still a strong season.

 

[Stephen]

Tavares stats line is always hovering around 1.0 PPG but is never a reflection of how impactful he is or isn't. He's also been way worse than he is right now.

 

[cc]

He's probably just a little banged up although he probably wouldn't admit it

 

[Goose]

UFAs decline and their contracts get progressively worse over time, this isn’t exactly breaking news.

With that said, his career average is a little under a point per game, so he’s not shockingly off his historic norm.

He’s declining pretty much exactly on schedule overall, this isn’t a particularly interesting thread topic.

 

[Devonator]

Not really.

 

[PaulD]

JT is a master at quietly getting his ppg.
However he is minus player on team full of plus players the last two seasons.
Might be starting to cheat his game a little in order to maintain that ppg.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He’s 25th in the league in points since signing with the Leafs. He was 7th the prior six years with similar production. The increase in league wide scoring has masked his declining stature.

 

[Divine]

JT is a master at quietly getting his ppg.
However he is minus player on team full of plus players the last two seasons.
Might be starting to cheat his game a little in order to maintain that ppg.

Unfortunately for you, JT is not a minus player this year. You'll need to make up a new narrative.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

His points have dropped a hair this year, but he still dominates in other areas like faceoffs, and is a dangerous net front guy.

 

[Toby91ca]

Is this a reaction to his partial benching in the 3rd period last night?

 

[Toby91ca]

UFAs decline and their contracts get progressively worse over time, this isn’t exactly breaking news.

what does this mean?

 

[PromisedLand]

Among all forwards in NHL at even strength production Tavares is ranked 58th. Given his AAV that isn't impactful enough IMO.

 

[34]

His contract expires next season anyway so it does not matter. I would think the Leafs are walking away from him.

what did you expect? The guy is at the end of a seven year contract. That will have him at 35 years old. Lol your thread is a cheap attempt to stir the pot.

 

[PWJunior]

His contract expires next season anyway so it does not matter. I would think the Leafs are walking away from him.

what did you expect? The guy is at the end of a seven year contract. That will have him at 35 years old. Lol your thread is a cheap attempt to stir the pot.

Do you really think the Leafs would walk away from him though? I think it's practically a certainty that he re-signs and likely on a team friendly deal. He's living his childhood dream as the Captain of his hometown team, there is no way he is going to let go of that easily. His wife and whole family are there in Toronto, they wouldn't let him leave even if he wanted to either.

 

[34]

Do you really think the Leafs would walk away from him though? I think it's practically a certainty that he re-signs and likely on a team friendly deal. He's living his childhood dream as the Captain of his hometown team, there is no way he is going to let go of that easily. His wife and whole family are there in Toronto, they wouldn't let him leave even if he wanted to either.

Business is business. Toronto is going to gain $11M in cap space. They are going to do what is best. Unless he is willing to take on $2M-$3M on the contract then he is out the door.

 

[PWJunior]

Business is business. Toronto is going to gain $11M in cap space. They are going to do what is best.

Damn, you're cold hearted... I love it.

You don't think he re-signs at like $5.5M for 3-years or something? He would likely be productive enough to make that a very reasonable deal. PR-wise, the Captain re-signing can be spun positively too. I think it's inevitable he re-signs.

Plus, where else would he go? He kind of boxed himself in to the Leafs.

 

[34]

Damn, you're cold hearted... I love it.

You don't think he re-signs at like $5.5M for 3-years or something? He would likely be productive enough to make that a very reasonable deal. PR-wise, the Captain re-signing can be spun positively too. I think it's inevitable he re-signs.

Plus, where else would he go? He kind of boxed himself in to the Leafs.

No, he is not worth $5M. A reasonable deal for him would be $2M-$3M. If he does not like the offer, we wish him the best. You will not get that money here.

After next season his contract is expired. Not Toronto’s problem where he goes. IMO, Toronto has to cut ties with him. He is not good enough anymore, he is bad.

 

[PaulD]

Unfortunately for you, JT is not a minus player this year. You'll need to make up a new narrative.

pick a card

Last 28 games since Domi moved to center.
Domi 15 assists ( no first unit pp time)
Tavares 15 assists (all kinds 1st unit pp time)

JT might be slipping

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Is he aging?

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

He's felt like 75 pt second tier star for a while

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Yeah he’s slipping. But not as bad as I expected when he signed the contract.
Only one more year to go.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

He’s very slow.

JT was never a good skater, but my God he is behind the play and clearly struggles in high paced games like last night’s loss to the Avalanche.