Is Jack Eichel the weakest of the four?

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hohosaregood

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He's definitely the weakest of the four this season. I mean, he sprained his ankle before the season started.
 

93LEAFS

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The 4 goal game wasn't in the last 10. Read.

He had an amazing debut. Since then, he's been average.
He's still generating a bunch of chances and shots. You seem to be ignoring in his first 10 games or 11 minus the first game Eichel had 3 points.
 

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Matthews last 10 games (if you remove the 4 goal opening night), he's on pace for 16 goals and 49 points. Hmmmm...

"If you remove 4 goals, Matthews PPG drops :dunce:"

Ground breaking stuff.

You know what the problem with that is? That's not how stats work.
 

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He's still generating a bunch of chances and shots. You seem to be ignoring in his first 10 games or 11 minus the first game Eichel had 3 points.

That's nice. Sabres fans weren't on the main board declaring Eichel the chosen one who will smite all on comers in his first 10 games either. The point is, to all that overreaction, pump the breaks.
 

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"If you remove 4 goals, Matthews PPG drops :dunce:"

Ground breaking stuff.

You know what the problem with that is? That's not how stats work.

I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings after watching many in your fanbase and Toronto media award him ROY and generational after one game, and it turns out, maybe they jumped the gun.
 

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All of you who are putting Auston Matthews ahead of Eichel do realize all scouts pretty well admit if eichel wAs in Matthews draft year Matthews would be a distant second.

Not busting your balls here, but I am pretty sure I read in multiple places that most scouts said Matthews would be #1 over Eichel if they were in the same draft class.
 

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I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings after watching many in your fanbase and Toronto media award him ROY and generational after one game, and it turns out, maybe they jumped the gun.
Yeah, Sabre's fans were doing it prior to Eichel even being drafted.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=90692241#post90692241

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=94791827&postcount=855

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94685845&highlight=eichel#post94685845

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=93366849&highlight=eichel#post93366849

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94710437&highlight=eichel#post94710437

You are by far the biggest Eichel homer on this site, to mock other fans for getting excited about their prospect is hilarious. Eichel sure looks better than McDavid eh? McDavid really was the Tavares level prospect to Eichel's generational talent. You posted this garbage all over the mainboards, pretty funny to see you bash other fans for being excited after a 4 goal game, when you were pimping Eichel over McDavid in a sub-par WJC performance.
 

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Not busting your balls here, but I am pretty sure I read in multiple places that most scouts said Matthews would be #1 over Eichel if they were in the same draft class.

It's been rather evenly divided, which is not that weird since they are extremely close as prospects.
 

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I find it hilarious that the "How About Auston Matthews now?" post got closed by a MOD but this thread has now made it EIGHTEEN pages. Funny how stuff works around here.
 

93LEAFS

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I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings after watching many in your fanbase and Toronto media award him ROY and generational after one game, and it turns out, maybe they jumped the gun.
Also, look at this gem after 10 games, you are absolutely hilarious.

Eichel is going to get 40 goals this year. I think when the season is over, statements like this after 10 games are going to look pretty silly.
 

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I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings after watching many in your fanbase and Toronto media award him ROY and generational after one game, and it turns out, maybe they jumped the gun.

First of all, like I said in the beginning of the year and maintain now, William Nylander will win the Calder.

Secondly, you spent the entire summer saying Eichel was in a tier above Matthews.That didn't turn out to be the case. Someone here has hurt feelings and it isn't me.

Lastly, explain how you can conveniently remove 4 goals and act like that accurately assesses a players offensive output.
 

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The 4 goal game wasn't in the last 10. Read.

He had an amazing debut. Since then, he's been average.

So you are saying if you ignore some points scored he has less points. I think you're on to something here......

As for Eichel, as I have stated before not very fair to judge him while he is injured. If Matthews can duplicate Eichels season last year I will be pretty happy. Eichel is an amazing player and having another player who is in the same tier as him is really exciting for the Leafs.

As for best rookie well the Leafs have stacked the deck on that one.....
 

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Yeah, Sabre's fans were doing it prior to Eichel even being drafted.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=90692241#post90692241

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=94791827&postcount=855

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94685845&highlight=eichel#post94685845

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=93366849&highlight=eichel#post93366849

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94710437&highlight=eichel#post94710437

You are by far the biggest Eichel homer on this site, to mock other fans for getting excited about their prospect is hilarious. Eichel sure looks better than McDavid eh? McDavid really was the Tavares level prospect to Eichel's generational talent. You posted this garbage all over the mainboards, pretty funny to see you bash other fans for being excited after a 4 goal game, when you were pimping Eichel over McDavid in a sub-par WJC performance.

Also, look at this gem after 10 games, you are absolutely hilarious.

:laugh:

Bravo, good sir.

Something tells me that poster is about to disappear.
 

stokes84

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First of all, like I said in the beginning of the year and maintain now, William Nylander will win the Calder.

Secondly, you spent the entire summer saying Eichel was in a tier above Matthews.That didn't turn out to be the case. Someone here has hurt feelings and it isn't me.

Lastly, explain how you can conveniently remove 4 goals and act like that accurately assesses a players offensive output.

There you go jumping the gun again. That's what I'm talking about.
 

93LEAFS

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There you go jumping the gun again. That's what I'm talking about.
And you massively jumped the gun saying Eichel was on McDavid's tier or possibly above him. Yet you think you are in the position to call out other fans. Eichel sure got 40 goals last year eh? Great prediction after 10 games.
 

stokes84

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Yeah, Sabre's fans were doing it prior to Eichel even being drafted.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=90692241#post90692241

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=94791827&postcount=855

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94685845&highlight=eichel#post94685845

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=93366849&highlight=eichel#post93366849

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94710437&highlight=eichel#post94710437

You are by far the biggest Eichel homer on this site, to mock other fans for getting excited about their prospect is hilarious. Eichel sure looks better than McDavid eh? McDavid really was the Tavares level prospect to Eichel's generational talent. You posted this garbage all over the mainboards, pretty funny to see you bash other fans for being excited after a 4 goal game, when you were pimping Eichel over McDavid in a sub-par WJC performance.

You mean I was posting about him before he was on my team? Thanks for proving I'm not a mindless homer.
 

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That's nice. Sabres fans weren't on the main board declaring Eichel the chosen one who will smite all on comers in his first 10 games either. The point is, to all that overreaction, pump the breaks.

Yeah, Sabre's fans were doing it prior to Eichel even being drafted.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=90692241#post90692241

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=94791827&postcount=855

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94685845&highlight=eichel#post94685845

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=93366849&highlight=eichel#post93366849

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=94710437&highlight=eichel#post94710437

You are by far the biggest Eichel homer on this site, to mock other fans for getting excited about their prospect is hilarious. Eichel sure looks better than McDavid eh? McDavid really was the Tavares level prospect to Eichel's generational talent. You posted this garbage all over the mainboards, pretty funny to see you bash other fans for being excited after a 4 goal game, when you were pimping Eichel over McDavid in a sub-par WJC performance.

:laugh:

It seems our little brothers down the HWY are getting all worked up, although I would too, constantly being an afterthought. Add to it that their rebuild seems to be falling behind and it's with good reason I suppose. All those wasted assets traded away by Murray, and for what?

As it stands now, I don't see where Buffalo is ahead of Toronto in regards to their respective rebuilds.

Coaching - Leafs > Sabres
Forwards - Leafs > Sabres
Defence - Sabres > Leafs
Goaltending - Leafs > Sabres
Prospects - Leafs > Sabres
Farm System - Leafs > Sabres
Front Office - Leafs > Sabres

Etc. Etc. Etc.
 

Aladyyn

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:laugh:

It seems our little brothers down the HWY are getting all worked up, although I would too, constantly being an afterthought. Add to it that their rebuild seems to be falling behind and it's with good reason I suppose. All those wasted assets traded away by Murray, and for what?

As it stands now, I don't see where Buffalo is ahead of Toronto in regards to their respective rebuilds.

Coaching - Leafs > Sabres
Forwards - Leafs > Sabres
Defence - Sabres > Leafs
Goaltending - Leafs > Sabres
Prospects - Leafs > Sabres
Farm System - Leafs > Sabres
Front Office - Leafs > Sabres

Etc. Etc. Etc.

hilarious :laugh:
 

93LEAFS

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Nah, I just know that he's really good and really under appreciated by people who want to base their opinions on the emblem on the sweater.
Yet you constantly bash Matthews to big up Eichel, after previously using McDavid to do this. I would say you are quite challenged in your ability to evaluate hockey players.
 
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