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is it time to eat crow about Jake Muzzin?

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He is much improved under pressure compared to last year's postseason. Props to him.

Plus, I can't hate anyone with that adorable mug. I mean, look at it.
 
I'm happily eating crow. I got chills when he was so pumped after his goal last night. So happy for the guy putting it all together. I thought his two biggest weaknesses were his agility (eminently fixable, I just thought he had clompy steps) and between the ears.

cyclones22 said:
Looks like a completely different player now. Last playoffs he handled the puck like a hand grenade. Now he's shown some composure. He's going to be a fixture next to Drew for years at this rate.
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Agreed. My biggest criticism of him was that this is a guy who, one year ago, was hucking sweet centering passes to Blues players when he heard footsteps in the playoffs. Learning experience it seems because he's playing ice cold nerves now.

Tonellisghost said:
True (Cyclone) but then that is how it is supposed to work. You bring a kid up knowing that they will need time to adjust to playing at the NHL level and if everyone has done their jobs right which in our case is how things have been being done for about 5 years now everything works out and you get a pipeline that feeds great young players to your team.

Muzzin AMart Nolan King Lewis Pearson Toffoli and on and on have all or currently are all doing pretty much what was/is expected of them since their draft. Some picked things up more quickly than others but they are all products of an excellent system.

Not all of our picks pan out but the ones that do you can see coming from a mile away.
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To be fair I think my big concern wasn't so much if he would figure it out but when. I certainly didn't expect him to figure things out so quickly, I just didn't want to burn 3-4 years of our current team because Doughty's partner grew slowly if that made sense. Obviously the insiders knew better than I but from the outside looking in especially I feel like that was a valid concern. See: Johnson, Jack.
 
He has the size, the skill and the skating ability to be a really good defensemen. But he is a lot like Dion Phanuef when it comes to his bad decision making sometimes. He probably would be better off being paired with Voynov Right now.
 
sinister6000 said:
He has the size, the skill and the skating ability to be a really good defensemen. But he is a lot like Dion Phanuef when it comes to his bad decision making sometimes. He probably would be better off being paired with Voynov Right now.
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What? That makes absolutely no sense. How would Muzzin be better off paired with Voynov? That is just asking for trouble. The pairing of Muzzin-Doughty has been the best performing defensive pair for the Kings throughout the playoffs. Why the hell would they break that up? This isn't some video game where you can just throw whatever fantasy lineup you'd like onto the ice.
 
Brad Doty said:
I'm happily eating crow. I got chills when he was so pumped after his goal last night. So happy for the guy putting it all together. I thought his two biggest weaknesses were his agility (eminently fixable, I just thought he had clompy steps) and between the ears.



Agreed. My biggest criticism of him was that this is a guy who, one year ago, was hucking sweet centering passes to Blues players when he heard footsteps in the playoffs. Learning experience it seems because he's playing ice cold nerves now.



To be fair I think my big concern wasn't so much if he would figure it out but when. I certainly didn't expect him to figure things out so quickly, I just didn't want to burn 3-4 years of our current team because Doughty's partner grew slowly if that made sense. Obviously the insiders knew better than I but from the outside looking in especially I feel like that was a valid concern. See: Johnson, Jack.
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To be even more fair I would never have put JM with DD to begin with as I don't see him as the right fit and still feel that way though not so much as I have up to this point. JM is playing up to his potential and even a little more so then what I saw in him from the beginning but that is a good thing.

I would still look for a better more natural fit for DD given the choice but JM has proven to be a very solid NHL caliber Dman who like AMart is more of a hybrid SAH/PMD then one or the other. On the insider thing you would be surprised how many other "insiders" had a hard time seeing the potential in
Jake and a few of our other more controversial kids but to me that is a good thing.

Nobody should ever surround themselves with people who only ever agree with their decisions, you want to look at things from every angle so you can always have the best possible understanding of where you are and how strident your convictions might be.

We are just lucky enough to have a GM and a brain trust that are capable of making the best decisions so often that we are the team that we are today.

3 WCF's in a row with one cup and who knows what will happen this year. Gotta love it.


In truth though I would and almost thought about starting a similar thread entitled "Is it time we all ate crow regarding this team being an elite contender"? All of the garbage that was and has been written about us by most of us and here we are again right on the cusp of a shot at the cup. 3 years running, I honestly never thought I would see the day but I never stopped believing I could.
 
We made a thread about King like this and his game went to hell. This is all on you if the same happens.
 
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The Muzz is here!
 
KingKopitar11 said:
We made a thread about King like this and his game went to hell. This is all on you if the same happens.
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Nope, I let my playoff "beard" grow even scruffier this season then I did during our cup run AND had to make a presentation looking like a pubescent werewolf who was going all Benjamin Button. They were hockey people so were understanding but man do I look like a homeless wolverine who can't grow hair all too well or with any sort of uniformity.

We are all good on the hex front.

(fingers crossed and spit twice over my right shoulder just in case)
 
They can be thankful for Muzz because Mitchell has found his way to the box and looks a step behind. Greene looks two steps behind but gives his best. Schultz is a replacement level player.

Muzz has been damn good.
 
Tonellisghost said:
Nope, I let my playoff "beard" grow even scruffier this season then I did during our cup run AND had to make a presentation looking like a pubescent werewolf who was going all Benjamin Button. They were hockey people so were understanding but man do I look like a homeless wolverine who can't grow hair all too well or with any sort of uniformity.

We are all good on the hex front.

(fingers crossed and spit twice over my right shoulder just in case)
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I'm really superstitious when it comes to hockey.
 
I never understood the hate on him and am glad to see how much he's grown. He and A-Mart aren't afraid to shoot the puck and both have great shots. Defensively, he is very solid.
 
MsWoof said:
I never understood the hate on him and am glad to see how much he's grown. He and A-Mart aren't afraid to shoot the puck and both have great shots. Defensively, he is very solid.
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Expectations are very high with Kings fans and he pretty much stepped in and took Mitchell's spot. Those were some big shoes to fill.
People were unrealistic not to expect a rookie to make mistakes, but expectations are high and everyone wants another cup.
 
Muzzin has always had all the tools, Just needed his brain to catch up.

Looks like that is happening.
 
kid is only in about his 2nd full year - only going to get better - not many players will put up points he will and still be good defensively.
 
Funny thing is Dwight King's game is the same it was to start the year.

The guy plays the same way pretty much ever shift, except now his line-mates are Non offensive players.

King/Richards/Williams did look really good though, wonder if Sutter stays with that line.
 
damacles1156 said:
Funny thing is Dwight King's game is the same it was to start the year.

The guy plays the same way pretty much ever shift, except now his line-mates are Non offensive players.

King/Richards/Williams did look really good though, wonder if Sutter stays with that line.
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They were kept together in practice today, so they're definitely together for Game 3.

It's also a good thing that Muzzin has been paired with Doughty for just about the entire season. They're so used to playing together now that they understand each other's reads and aren't going to be surprised by anything their partner is going to do.

Could be looking at LA's top pairing for many years to come (that is if they are able to re-sign Muzzin at a reasonable rate next summer when he'll be a RFA).
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
They were kept together in practice today, so they're definitely together for Game 3.

It's also a good thing that Muzzin has been paired with Doughty for just about the entire season. They're so used to playing together now that they understand each other's reads and aren't going to be surprised by anything their partner is going to do.

Could be looking at LA's top pairing for many years to come (that is if they are able to re-sign Muzzin at a reasonable rate next summer when he'll be a RFA).
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It's time for King to wake up


 
Scottkmlps said:
.....that you know of. It may not be on the menu, but that doesn't mean that "chicken" or "duck" you ordered isn't crow disguised.

Apparently somebody has tried it:

http://bertc.com/subfive/recipes/threecrows.htm

Damn, wacky Canadians.
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Which reminds me of the time I went down to tijuana and had the most tender and delicioso beef tacos from a street vendor. I was too drunk at the time, but next day I figured it probably wasn't beef, but rather a dog, cat or even a rat.

edit: now, where do you go to buy crow meat?
 
If Muzzin can carry this sort of intensity and decisiveness on most nights, then he's ****ing awesome. A perfect #2 to compliment Doughty. I'm excited we get to watch his evolution.
 
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