Post-Game Talk: Is it a cruel irony that PDO was created by an Oilers fan?

[Drivesaitl]

Yup, they’re even going back to last year’s playoffs trying to plead their case. Laughable

Doesn't it show limited basis? Several of his backers go back to the Skinner streak last season to defend him. Anytime he has a good game they'll be bleating on like he's Tretiak. "Wheres the haters now" lol.

 

[TB12]

Aww, now quoting stats upsets you? You were a big fan on your last one, what happened?

Giving you context so you can wrap your head around the fact that the Oilers win games in spite of their goaltending, not because of it.

Like.

 

[foshizzle]

Yeah. Attribution isn't a strong point for some posters here. In fairness the media and telecasts here sing falsehood as well. Last year it was the Skinner legend winning streak (had little to do with him) and the Skinner W record. Year later all those peeps are silient on it. Now its somebody else is the reason Skinner is underperforming and losing. The one poster has 50posts in the thread blaming others for Skinners game last night.

It beggars belief that people don't detect that the biggest flaw in the Oilers roster is goaltending. Its the salient variable that prevents the Oil being better.

And what blows my mind is the analytics and data points show this too. Skinner defenders literally have have nothing to point to as evidence. Nothing

 

[Drivesaitl]

Skinner has been downright bad for several stretches this season but Pickard has played like 12/15 of his games against absolute doormats. His toughest 2 starts were NJ and a busted MIN team. His typical opponents are the likes of ANA, NSH, CHI, etc., etc., with no appreciable difference in counting stats relative to Skinner. It is wild to say Pickard has been better, full stop. His point% is right in line (I think actually slightly below) our point% against bottom half-of-the-league teams. Which makes sense, because that contingent of teams makes up the vast majority of his starts.

I am all for upgrading the position (better backup or 1A/1B to push Skinner makes sense) but the move is not to start playing Pickard more than Skinner.

As for last night's game, Skinner definitely muffed a goal which is unfortunately not an unusual occurrence. I continue to worry about the team's lack of finish as well. But as I've stated many times this is a good team and with some luck and health we should have a long run again. I mean, if Drai and Kane aren't shells of themselves due to injury in the Finals last season we are all still happily hungover.

These are NHL clubs in a cap league that strives to have parity either through reverse draft or game management. Theres no automatic wins in the league anymore. You have to show up. Pickard has faced Minny twice, jersey, Had to come in against Winnipeg to mop up and has played Montreal who are in a playoff spot. In anycase Pickard is cleaing up in these games. Among his starts when the Oilers have actually scored a goal (not get shutout) Pickard is 11-2. he's hardly blown any result all season. He also played Columbus to 3 goals. The same club that set Stuart Skinner on fire pumping in 6 goals.

To wit Skinner has lost as many games to non playoff clubs than Pickard has.

Sure Skinner is getting tougher starts. he's not exactly doing great with that. He's lost to Van, Pitts, CBJ, CGY. he got blown out of the rink by Pitt and CBJ.

More than a dozen of the W's that Skinner does have are against teams that are out of a playoff spot. 13 to be exact. 13 of Skinners wins (he only has 18 total) are against clubs currently out of playoffs.

Not everything is as you make it. Skinner has a losing record against playoff clubs. Skinner is around 5W 7L 3OT against playoff clubs this season.

Finally, its misleading to categorize games as easy or hard and for example only 5pts separates 8 teams that are fighting for two WC spots in the east. The teams are hardly differentiated, they are basically the same level of difficulty. In the east particularly parity has arrived in spades. its basically Washington, and then everybody else.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I'm not a big Skinner hater but that game yesterday made me dislike him haha. I haven't got bothered by any losses this season more than last night, should have won that game going away.

The Caps basically went 3 for 3 on scoring chances. That shit just can't happen and it's happened too much with Stu this season.

Exactly how I feel. Yesterday was a turning point for me with him. I’ve given him enough grace.

I’m not saying he can’t be part of the solution, but he can only be PART of the solution. I no longer have faith he can get it done on his own.

 

[guymez]

Thompson saved like 5 chances equal to the third goal. Yeah. It was a decent opportunity. Nothing more. I already said the first goal was a good one. Second goal was abhorrent. And the third goal was a save he needs to make. Especially after stinking up the second goal.

Again...absolutely no mention of all the rebound chances leaked by Thompson.
If the pathetic Oilers secondary scoring could have capitalized on even one of all those rebounds its a completely different game.
Of course the only thing that matters is Skinner...correct?

 

[Dirty Mind]

The Oilers are riding it out with Skinner because if they didn’t to them it would seem like admitting that they made a mistake drafting him.

He is not a starter an NHL franchise serious about winning a Cup(s) rides with. Pride/ego is why they don’t actively search for other options and it’s already cost them twice.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Its 2024. Nobody cares. He's had several yrs to look and play like even a semblance of a #1 goalie and he wants this gig. He doesn't improve at much but here we are.

Because you don’t throw players into the fire regardless of position. Management failed this team.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

Again...absolutely no mention of all the rebound chances leaked by Thompson.
If the pathetic Oilers secondary scoring could have capitalized on even one of all those rebounds its a completely different game.
Of course the only thing that matters is Skinner...correct?

I’m sorry, I thought we were having a discussion about skinner.

I haven’t watched enough of Thompson to really comment on his goaltending. In last nights game he did indeed knock out some rebounds. He also tracked the puck extremely well out of those rebounds and had the balance, explosiveness, and high level athletic ability to make the rebound save multiple times. If that’s his bad game, then I’d hate to play against him when he has a good one.